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Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit
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Thomas Lord |
Subject: |
Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit |
Date: |
Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:54:04 -0800 (PST) |
> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <address@hidden>
> Thomas> Where does that leave such willfully ignorant execs in my
> Thomas> moral calculus?
> Well, since you ask: it should leave them _outside_ of the _moral_
> calculus. Evaluating others is not moral behavior: moral evaluations
> are first person, "I/we should/should not do ...". Of course it is
> often necessary to morally evaluate others' _behavior_, in order to
> determine whether "you and me" can become "we" in the moral calculus.
Are you saying:
Moral judgement are applicable to actions, behavior, and
attitudes -- not to individual people. Thus, you
are wrong to place ignorant execs within your moral
calculus.
?
That I would agree with. I would have better said:
Where does that leave such willfully ignorant
/behavior on the part of/ so many key execs in my
moral calculus?
A subtle but worthwhile improvement. In terms of the "takeaway" from
this thread that an exec might make? Well, that improvement might
save them a few minutes worth of a therapy session, but that's about
it. To the (persumably large) extent the identify with their
behavior as execs: it /is/ important to emphasize that the behavior
can change while the person remains integrated.
But are you also saying:
Moral judgements are important only for evaluating
the possibility of an alliance. ("whether ``you and me''
can become ``we''.)
Many people on the right would disagree strongly and sharply with
that. And me, here on the left, would side with them.
-t
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, (continued)
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/06
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Zenaan Harkness, 2004/11/07
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/07
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/08
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/08
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/08
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/09
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/10
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit,
Thomas Lord <=
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/09
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/10
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/11
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/11
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Miles Bader, 2004/11/02
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/02
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stig Brautaset, 2004/11/02
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/03
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Adrian Irving-Beer, 2004/11/03
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: community spirit, Zenaan Harkness, 2004/11/01