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Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit
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Thomas Lord |
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Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit |
Date: |
Wed, 10 Nov 2004 12:31:25 -0800 (PST) |
> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <address@hidden>
> Thomas> Next moves if that /isn't/ the game? --- hmmm i dunno.
> Thomas> "Me" making "them" an offer that's "/easy/ to refuse (and
> Thomas> hopefully easier to accept)?"
> Good luck, but I'm afraid you lack the vocabulary to phrase an
> acceptable offer.
>From my perspective, you have expressed fear that those whom I've
addressed are bigots and/or illiterates. So I hope you are wrong and
I act on that basis.
Yeah, sure --- consider me "trailer trash", asshole[*]. Anyway, back
to business.
[*] words are funny. "they" don't use swears and recognized
insults so much but, as one who grew up in their community of
discourse -- well, they just use more "refined" swears and
insults, often when they presume the target of them isn't
familiar with /their/ vocuabulary. There is little that is
more vicariously embarassing than a preppy in the same room
who /thinks/ he is talking over your head about you to a third
party. So, when I casually swear and insult to convey nuance,
at least I am not trying to deceive, like some people do.
> Thomas> The opposite of bribery and price fixing and other forms
> Thomas> of economic hostility is progressive commerce, more or
> Thomas> less, no?
> Thomas> And the opposite of public to-the-death debate is private
> Thomas> consultation in a spirit of community, yes?
> *sigh* No, and no. This is precisely what I meant above by "lack the
> vocabulary."
I get enough feedback from people /not/ of "their" class to be
confident that I have clearly expressed a proposal for a friendly and
positive development. I get enough feedback from people /of/ "their"
class to know that there are no class-based barriers to having a
grand-ol'-time at a sitdown with these folks. If you want to excuse
them on the choice of "vocabulary", maybe the next question becomes
why some groups make such a fetish of that. But mostly, I don't
consider you to be, in /this/ corner of the discussion, a spokesman
for "them".
To the extent that you speak for "them", my reply is: "Grow up, ya'
pansies. I'm here to talk business with you just fine, once you get
over yourselves. Don't be so afraid of a word. Just because I call
you a fuckhead doesn't mean I regard you as a fuckhead -- that's
pretty obvious to just about any /normal/ person."
-t
- [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, (continued)
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/06
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Zenaan Harkness, 2004/11/07
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/07
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/08
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/08
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/08
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/09
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit,
Thomas Lord <=
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/08
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/09
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/10
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/11/11
- Re: [OT] Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/11
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Miles Bader, 2004/11/02
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Thomas Lord, 2004/11/02
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Stig Brautaset, 2004/11/02
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Andrew Suffield, 2004/11/03
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Re: community spirit, Adrian Irving-Beer, 2004/11/03