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Re: dead list or what ?

From: Luca Saiu
Subject: Re: dead list or what ?
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:12:04 +0100
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Jad Saklawi wrote:
To tell you the truth i feel the need for the rise of gnu-hurd because i am fed up of the fact that linux is devloped using non free-software "bk", and the fact that gnu-hurd is a micro kernel

[Not exactly: the Hurd is a kernel (implemented as a set of servers) built upon
a microkernel; GNU/Hurd is the whole operating system essentially made by
GNU and the Hurd as its kernel]

> which makes things much more logical and
easier to deal with.

The fact that Linux is developed using a non-free revision control system is surely incoherent from our point of view. However I think we can't change that from the outside; Linus Torvalds sees "open source" just as a convenient development method, ignoring ethical considerations. I'm happy that you disagree with him. The Hurd is a very very interesting object, but remember that it's not yet as mature as Linux; before it's ready for production use we can use GNU/Linux without too many hassles, and be happy with it. It's GPL'd free software, and it remains so even if we don't share the ideas of its author. I agree with you on the fact that the Hurd architecture is much more "aesthetically" pleasant, but today Linux works fairly well.

However if you have experience in OS design and you want to actively contribute with your work to the Hurd then write to or; the Hurd developers will welcome you.

If instead you are interested in revision control systems you could read about the GNU arch project (, which is developing a new free revision control system; it seems really nice. A way to win against proprietary software is making it technically obsolete.

I don`t know what this list`s topic is supposed to be about exactly since it is titled with "misc" any way we can make of it something fun and productive..

I quote from "This list is for serious discussion of freed software, the GNU Project, the GNU Manifesto, and their implications.".

  I hope to have helped you somehow.

Luca Saiu, maintainer of GNU epsilon

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