Re: Need more detail.

[Alejandro Imass]

>From the answers below I can see I'm not the only one
confused around here.

OK so if we have to write no idl. What do I do now
with my biz object definitions?!?!?!?!?!

OK. Suppose Object Server is going to take care of
this, and it's not finished, I would like to work on
this. Now I mean. I would guess there is somekind of
mechanism in the Object Server to Register and create
your objects based on a common file format (XML from
DIA?). If so I would suppose all GNUE biz objects
would have to implement a common Interface (i.e.
methods common to all GNUE biz objects) to be able to
create their own tables, etc..


Who's working on this right now?

Regards,
Alejandro


--- Christopher Browne <address@hidden> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:59:53 PDT, the world broke
> into rejoicing as
> "Derek A. Neighbors" <address@hidden>  said:
> > I will try quick response.  Andrew, Jade, James
> please chime in...
> > 
> > > Things have probably advanced from what's on the
> documentation on
> > > gnue.org
> > 
> > Yes docs need work. 
> >  
> > > 1) are we using static or DII CORBA
> > 
> > Not sure I understand the question wholly.
> 
> Static interfaces are ones for which the IDL is
> established at
> compile time; DII represents where the interfaces
> are established
> at runtime.
> 
> The C CORBA binding for DII is pretty painful; the
> C++ binding for DII
> represents where a Whopping Lot of the interface
> complexity comes in on
> that side.
> 
> If CORBA is actually being used, it should be very
> easy to answer this
> question.
> 
> > > 2) is the db factory class working? per Object
> Server Guide Proposal
> > > (OSGP from here)
> > 
> > Andrew can answer this.
> > 
> > > 3) are we still using ORBit (if so, I would
> guess it generates skels and
> > > stubs for python!?)
> > 
> > Yes using ORBit.  But you shouldnt have to create
> IDL.  ObjectServer
> > handles this.
> 
> Is it generating IDL and compiling it at compile
> time?  Or does it use
> DII?
> 
> (This should be trivial to answer based on whether
> or not you use
> #include <orb/dii.h>)
> 
> > > 4) now I have my UML model. I write the IDL
> compileit in ORBit and get
> > > some python code for the Object Server. What
> now? I guess I instance a
> > > DB Object and I should be able to intialize my
> object container (i.e.
> > > create the table to hold the objects of each of
> my classes). So there
> > > should be some common methods defined for this
> in the DB Object. Are
> > > there?
> > 
> > You write NO IDL.  (This was whole frustation in
> RR discussion!)  You
> > dont have to worry about all this stuff.  That is
> what GNUe is ALL
> > about. :)  You just focus on biz rules and stuff
> and dont worry about
> > nasty IDL's and database handling etc...
> 
> And when it is necessary to interface to things
> outside, how would
> one do that?
> 
> If there is "no IDL," then this sounds like it is
> distinctly NOT a
> CORBA-based system, as IDL is the basis for defining
> CORBA applications.
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