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Re: lamers on IRC


From: Eric Abrahamsen
Subject: Re: lamers on IRC
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 08:30:27 -0700
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:

> * Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org> [2022-05-23 00:22]:
>> One problem with IRC is the presence of lamers, luckily this
>> problem can be solved easily with technology starting with the
>> IRC client. Today I learned how to do this with my client,
>> ERC:
>
> 😥 Emacs channel for years has no moderators who moderate by common
> sense and police the channel for good behavior, there are no special
> rules, and those policies displayed like to avoid discrimination and
> asshatery will be quickly broken by those few dominating over larger
> group of people there.
>
> And people participating, often few hundreds of them may think and get
> opinion that rude behavior is acceptable -- no it is not normal, there
> are many occurences of unfriendly and abusively dominating behavior. 
>
> Some of alpha monkey dominators will switch from channel to channel
> after the user and even complain why did that user go to other
> channel. They go because of abusive behavior.
>
> Public come to #emacs for Emacs reasons. They will often find
> narcissists' behavior and abuse. Insults and mockery are common.
>
> #emacs IMHO is not GNU governedchannel, rather it is GNU project
> related channel, IMHO, is also not moderated by GNU Kind
> Communication Guidelines.
>
> This is appearing as generalization, as I do not want to mention the
> dominators' nick names.
>
> Some people complain on Libreplanet mailing list on unwelcoming
> environments in social networks around free software. I can really
> understand such complaints, and I like to point to friendly digital
> places for help. IMHO #emacs channel on IRC is such place due to few
> dominating parties. This is because dominators live in their own
> digital world behind the computer, forgetting about the human beings
> on other side of the world.

The Emacs channel on Matrix is a pretty reasonable place.




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