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Re: Guix website and CI is unavailable in Russia


From: Dominic Martinez
Subject: Re: Guix website and CI is unavailable in Russia
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2022 10:47:15 -0500
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I don't know anything about gnu.org's availability, but if you want to download sources ahead of time you can do so with the guix build --sources flag. It will download the source of a package or derivation and put it in the store. For instance, you could download the sources of a package manifest and all of its transitive dependencies with the following:

guix build --sources=transitive --manifest=manifest.scm

I'm not sure how something fully offline would work though, as the sources for all Guix packages would take up a massive amount of disk space. The number of packages each person would want offline would also depend on how much disk space they are willing to give up.

w96k@riseup.net writes:

Hello. Looks like Guix website (guix.gnu.org) and guix ci in cli (can't pull and install packages from ci.guix.gnu.org) doesn't work without a tor for some users from Russia including me. Gnu.org works fine without
a tor.

The website is not blocked by Russian government (at least looks like
so):

https://www.isitblockedinrussia.com/?host=guix.gnu.org

As far as I know they block it by domain address, but I might be wrong.

I want to ask guix server location and ask is it some kind of ban from guix server side or not? Maybe guix server provider or government bans some russian ips now. Everything works fine through tor for me and some ru users. It would be sad to stop using guix system because of war
issues.

Also it is kinda related to GNU's freedom #1, because not everyone can access the code and the compiled software via internet connection: "The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a
precondition for this."

On a related note, do you think it might be a good idea to make offline guix distribution? Looks like Russia has a danger of internet shutdowns
or china-like internet limitations. It can be organized like
/gnu/sources/ folder with source code of many packages and when package name is present them, guix would choose to build from source without trying to connect to the servers or something like it. Just an idea.

Thanks in advance.



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