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Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs
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Graham Percival |
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Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs |
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Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:18:56 +0100 |
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:44:49PM +0100, Graham Percival wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:23:00AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote:
> > I'm not convinced we need a Frog Meister. Anyone capable
> > of developing a patch to LilyPond code is capable of uploading
> > it to Reitveld. Any help required could be given on the list by
> > any of the contributors.
>
> Frog Meister, under this (re)interpretation, is more of a social
> position than a technical one.
Maybe I should have specified "social and organizational". And
maybe we should call them "managers" rather than "mentors".
> Perfect example: two weeks ago, issue 1630 chord autosplit was
> almost finished (it only needed a few minor code formatting).
At the risk (or certainty) of being completely immodest, I shall
put myself forward as a "perfect example" of what I envision by a
"mentor/manager".
I don't care about chords, let alone chords inside a
Completion_heads_engraver. Nor do I know how the tie engraver
works, or engravers in general. This issue is not a problem for
me, nor do I expect to ever benefit from this bugfix in person.
I've never reviewed the technical aspects of issue 1630.
But I think I was an excellent mentor for Janek on that in the
past 2 days. Even if I don't care about a patch, I can still
pretend to care about it. (at the end it was kind-of Janek
working and me mentoring, rather than Karin/Janek)
- I prompted him to contact Karin
- I discussed some non-technical issues (indentation)
- I commiserated (off-list) with him about various problems in the
community.
- when he (and Karin) had obviously gone beyond the call of duty,
I stepped forward and spent 15 minutes finishing off the
non-technical issues.
- above all else, I tried to keep things "moving". When something
got stuck, I investigated and either fixed it, or tried to put
him/them in touch with people who _could_ fix it.
I think that most new contributors would benefit *enormously* from
having a dedicated person who does those things. Whether we call
them mentors or managers or big brothers or sempai/kouhai or
whatever.
Cheers,
- Graham
- GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, Graham Percival, 2011/06/14
- Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, address@hidden, 2011/06/15
- Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, Trevor Daniels, 2011/06/15
- Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, Graham Percival, 2011/06/15
- Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, Carl Sorensen, 2011/06/15
- Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, Graham Percival, 2011/06/17
- RE: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, James Lowe, 2011/06/18
- Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, Jan Warchoł, 2011/06/21
- Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, Carl Sorensen, 2011/06/19
- Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, Carl Sorensen, 2011/06/19
- Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, Jan Warchoł, 2011/06/21
- Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs, Graham Percival, 2011/06/21