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Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs
From: |
Carl Sorensen |
Subject: |
Re: GOP-PROP 2: mentors and Frogs |
Date: |
Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:46:43 -0600 |
On 6/15/11 5:44 AM, "Graham Percival" <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> Perfect example: two weeks ago, issue 1630 chord autosplit was
> almost finished (it only needed a few minor code formatting). But
> then it stalled until I suggested to Janek that he should get in
> touch with Karin 2 days ago. Then suddenly stuff started
> happening.
>
> I think the story of this patch
> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1630
> http://codereview.appspot.com/4490045/
> is a horrible black eye for us. Initial patch sent on 2011-04-29.
> Janek said (in private email) that he could mentor her on
> 2011-04-29, but the patch only went on rietveld on 2011-05-07
> because he was on vacation. A few comments, then nothing happened
> for two weeks. Then a few more revisions happened, followed by
> another two-week gap.
>
> This whole patch could have been done in 5 DAYS if we'd had our
> cards in order.
> - new contributor comes.
> - "welcome, here's the guidelines, ask on frogs or xyz for
> personal help"
> - revision 1, comments for 24 hours, revision 2, comment for 24
> hours, revision 3, patch review countdown 48 hours.
>
> Instead, this has dragged out for almost 7 WEEKS. Given this
> experience, I fully expect Karin to abandon any attempt at future
> bugfixing in lilypond. Seven weeks for a 68-line patch?!
>
This is especially tragic because the initial quality of the patch was very
high. Karin is clearly a gifted programmer who figured out how to solve
this problem on her own. Losing her potential contributions to LilyPond is
a real problem. I hope we can change our ways and continue to get her
involved.
Thanks,
Carl