Re: critical issues

[James]

Hello,

On 3 January 2012 12:53, Han-Wen Nienhuys <address@hidden> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Werner LEMBERG <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> If we refuse thinking about stable releases by taking GUB as an
>>> excuse, the grand next stable release that will benefit users of
>>> many operating systems is likely to fall in the class "too little,
>>> too late".
>>
>> I second David.  Given that we develop within a GNU environment, bugs
>> specific to Windows and Mac shouldn't prevent stable releases.  I can
>> even imagine that well announced release candidates for a new stable
>> version attracts developers to help fix issues with problematic
>> platforms.
>
> From a support perspective, not releasing the windows and mac versions
> at the same time is problematic.  Many questions and bugreports that
> could be answered with "upgrade to the latest version" all of a sudden
> start depending on the platform that the user is using.

Yes, Han-Wen beat me to that point.

So if 2.14 works on OSX but 2.16 doesn't then the user has no choice
but to stick with 2.14 or use a 2.15 branch both which are no no
longer being developed.

That is a pain to troubleshoot

There is some wonderful work gone into 2.15 that isn't (and never will
be in 2.14) that the user-base will miss out on.

>
>> Given that we develop within a GNU environment, bugs
>> specific to Windows and Mac shouldn't prevent stable releases
>
> I don't see how this reasoning works. You do stable releases for
> users, not developers.

Beautifully put.

As a side note, I came to LP via MacOS X + Lilypad, and ran with
windows only because it is my OS at work. Now I use Linux for all my
LP work and LilyDev in a VM for Dev and doc work (so LilyPond-Book is
not a problem for me and having LilyDev in a VM even if it is in a
Linux OS itself - allows me to use VBox's snapshot for testing or
reverting when I run into git issues or build issues), in fact my
Windows LP work is virtually nil now, unless a user or dev asks for
some second verification.

My question to David, because I am not getting where the 'ire' is
coming from, why do you care if we release dev after dev release vs
stable?

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James