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Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator
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David Kastrup |
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Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator |
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Sun, 14 Nov 2021 20:01:06 +0100 |
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Carl Sorensen <c_sorensen@byu.edu> writes:
> On 11/14/21, 9:33 AM, "David Kastrup" <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> Kieren MacMillan <kieren@kierenmacmillan.info> writes:
>
> > Hi David,
> >
> >> How is that uniquely identified? Why couldn't it be
> > subscripted with 10 instead of 5?
> >
> > I suppose it could. It could also be subscripted with a π or a √2. I
> > can’t stop people from doing what they want to do.
> >
> > Simultaneously true is the fact that the musical duration “one
> > quintuplet-sixteenth” has one and only one visual representation,
> > regardless of what Lilypond thinks or is told to do.
>
> Again you are evading the stated problem. The question was about the
> representation of time signature 8/20, not about "one
> quintuplet-sixteenth". 8/20 does not specify more than the basic
> subdivision for expressing beats (not necessarily identical with the
> number of beats as signatures like 9/8 show) and how much material fits
> a bar. It does not identify how that material may be structured or
> expressed, in opposition to your and Carl's statements about what
> meaning the parts of a time signature are supposed to inherently have,
> leading to a proposal of generally changing the current representation
> by involving musical durations for the denominator.
>
> David,
>
> Do disagree with the statement that "The 20 on the bottom of the time
> signature indicates a duration of 1/20 of a whole note"?
In LilyPond terms, 1/20 of a whole note is not a duration. It can be a
Moment.
> If you disagree with this, what do you think the 20 on the bottom of
> the time signature means?
1/20 of the length of a whole note. Which is not a duration as such in
LilyPond and thus cannot be properly represented by one.
--
David Kastrup
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, (continued)
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, David Kastrup, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, David Kastrup, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, David Kastrup, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Carl Sorensen, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Lukas-Fabian Moser, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Lukas-Fabian Moser, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Wols Lists, 2021/11/16
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, David Kastrup, 2021/11/16
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, address@hidden, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator [ABANDONED], Kieren MacMillan, 2021/11/14
- Re: TimeSignature with note in denominator, Aaron Hill, 2021/11/13