Re: Lyric Font Changes over Multiple Staves-hebrew lyrics

[Aaron]

Hi Mats,
I tried much of this but with limited results so far, it could be that
with some more experimenting I may succeed. 
\r and   \l withelatex are supposed to do that but in lyrics they so far
seem to be ignored...

I  hope that once I understand how everything works I will be able to
come  up with some additional steps,
and I will correct the wrapper file as well
Thanks,
Aaron
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 14:28, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> I don't really know anything about how the Hebrew support in
> eLaTeX is implemented. What I know is that Lilypond uses low-level
> font selection commands like
> \font\myfont=jerus10 \myfont
> when typesetting the lyrics.
> 
> Regarding the backwords notation, I can think of two main solutions
> (again not knowing anything about the Hebrew support):
> 
> - Let Lilypond just change the font and write the syllables
>    backwards by hand. This should probably work without any extra
>    LaTeX package for Hebrew and with ordinary LaTeX instead of eLaTeX,
>    but you probably want such a package anyway for the titling.
> 
> - Use some LaTeX package that lets you insert Hebrew quotes in
>    a document that mainly is written with latin letters. Let's say
>    that the corresponding command is \hebrew{...}. Then you could
>    typeset your lyrics using
> lyrics = \lyrics{"\\hebrew{first syllable}" "\\hebrew{second syllable}" }
>    Of course, this is a bit clumsy and ruins Lilypond's ability to
>    calculate the length of each syllable when it determines the note
>    spacing. However, it should be fairly easy for som Scheme hacker
>    on the Lilypond list to make a small hack that automatically adds
>    the \hebrew{...} around each syllable, once you have made it work.
> 
> 
> The problem you experience with notation written backwards indicates
> that you use a LaTeX package that by default writes everything as
> Hebrew. What you need is Latin text (or at least left to right text)
> as the default and a possibility to switch to Hebrew on demand.
> 
>     /Mats
> 
> Aaron wrote:
> > Well, you are welcome,
> > but I just copied it from a letter on cyrillic fonts.
> > 
> > but if it helped I am happy.
> > 
> > On the hebrew side I have a stickier problem.
> > 
> > When I run my example through lilypond-book it treats all text as
> > hebrew.
> > 
> > I need a way to make sure that just the lyrics are processed as hebrew.
> > 
> > Additionally.
> > The use of hebrew itself is problematic:
> > hebrew is right to left and english is left to right, but hebrew lyrics
> > are left to right globally and right to left locally:
> > 
> > As follows:
> >  this is english -> -> abc abc starts from the left
> > <- <- hebrew is this   cba cba starts from the right
> > 
> > lyrics                  start from the left, but each syllable  are read
> > from the right.
> > 
> > ------------------------
> > the problem I am having is how to get everything both the notation and
> > the lyrics to start from the left!!! Think about it a second when I tell
> > latex to use hebrew it makes everything go from right to left even the
> > notation!!!
> > I have dvi's with hebrew and the notation backwards....
> > 
> > Any thoughts???
> > Aaron     
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 01:12, Warren Stickney wrote:
> > 
> >>My Lyrics problem is now solved.
> >>
> >>Thanks, Aaron, for the correct command and structure as in your message on
> >>hebrew lyrics.
> >>
> >>I have so much to learn.
> >>
> >>
> >>Warren Stickney
> >>Wellington,
> >>New Zealand
> >>E-mail : address@hidden
> >>
> >>
> >>
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