Re: engraving question - temporary voices in vocal music

[Phil Holmes]

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From: "Janek Warchoł" <address@hidden>
To: "James Lowe" <address@hidden>; "colinpkcampbell" 
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Subject: Re: engraving question - temporary voices in vocal music


W dniu 20 lutego 2011 01:50:15 UTC+1 użytkownik James Lowe
<address@hidden> napisał:
> Hello,
>
> From: Janek Warchoł <address@hidden>
> > 2011/2/19 Phil Holmes <address@hidden>:
> > > Just to back up my "either is OK" comment, here's a little bit from
> > > Chappell's version of the Gondoliers. Personally I think this is lazy,
> > > but
> > > it's how they've done it.
> >
> > Your example puzzles me, as i see no reason to mix two kinds of notation
> > here...
>
> Don't string players have to put up with this kind of thing all the time?
>
> They just add the notation 'div'/'non-div' or 'unison'.
>
> Why not for vocal?

I don't know how to explain this... I mean, there is only one melody
throughout that measure, no structural changes. In my opinion it
should either have all notes double-stemmed, or all notes
single-stemmed.
Maybe the attachment will explain what i mean.

W dniu 20 lutego 2011 02:15:51 UTC+1 użytkownik Colin Campbell
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> As a choral singer, the "explicit" image says sopranos and altos sharing a
> staff; the "problem" implies a single voice splitting, probably 
> temporarily,
> into e.g. Sop 1 and Sop 2.

Generally i agree; if the rhythyms are identical i'd notate it like
that. But if soprano splits temporarily into S1 and S2 which have
different rhythyms, explicit polyphonic notation is necessary.

cheers,
Janek

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I was simply illustrating that the standard of professional engraving at 
around 1900 wasn't very precise.  I am transcribing Gondoliers to LilyPond, 
and if you count accidentals where they shouldn't be, there are literally 
hundreds of errors.

--
Phil Holmes