Re: Dorico release and tutorials

[Gilles]

On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:20:11 +0200, Urs Liska wrote:
> Am 19.10.2016 um 16:14 schrieb Gilles:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:47:01 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> > > Hi Gilles,
> > >
> > > > Unforced breaks can depend on previous margin settings,
> > > > possibly making the numbering wrong when the user reruns
> > > > the compilation with different settings.
> > >
> > > Of course that *can* happen… but it doesn’t have to. In all my
> > > scores, once the layout is fixed, I no longer *ever* let Lilypond 
> > > make
> > > layout choices: I turn off auto-breaking and manually force-break 
> > > all
> > > lines and pages, i.e., page numbers in my scores never change 
> > > [after
> > > that point].
> > >
> > > > > Why “rather”? Why not “in addition to”?
> > > >
> > > > Because (I guess that) the former will not likely produce
> > > > the expected output, particularly when there are many pages.
> > > > Unless you mean that the typesetting should only rely on
> > > > forced breaks.
> > >
> > > No… I’m saying I don’t understand why there cannot be options — 
> > > then
> > > users (like me) who control breaks completely can do one thing, and
> > > those who don’t can do another.
> > >
> > > That’s one of my favourite philosophical features about Lilypond: 
> > > it
> > > so often allows the user to choose, offering many parameters for
> > > adjustment (with reasonable defaults).
> >
> > I think that we say the same thing: the feature would work
> > reliably only when the user specify all page breaks.
>
> I think that *if* a score requires differently-sized sections it's
> pretty common that you'll end up with manual breaks. So t option 
> should
> be there, as an alternative.
> Of course such a feature could also be useful to apply to "the 
> current
> page", so you'll write an explicit break followed by the command. 
> That
> way it would be independent from the actual page number.

What I'm saying is that *if* the feature is to allow a given
number of systems onto one page, it is better to have an explicit
command to that effect, rather than "manually" fiddle with the
margin and/or staff-size settings.

Of course, I can well imagine that it would be much more complicated
to implement than a margin setting, while for users that enter all the
page breaks manually, all that would be required is the margin setting.

Best regards,
Gilles

> > Best,
> > Gilles
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Kieren.