Re: Ties between voices?

[Thomas Morley]

2017-10-07 17:08 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley <address@hidden>:
> 2017-10-07 16:40 GMT+02:00 James Harkins <address@hidden>:
>> ---- On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 20:49:31 +0800 Simon Albrecht <address@hidden> 
>> wrote ----
>>> On 07.10.2017 13:55, James Harkins wrote:
>>> > But, it's a <b b'> chord where I want the lower tie to go down, and
>>> > the upper one to go up...
>>>
>>> Put the ties inside the chord:
>>> <b_~ b'^~>
>>
>> Oh... I'm afraid I spoke too soon. The syntax is accepted, but ignored in 
>> the printed output. I still get two down-ties.
>>
>> It must be conflict-resolution logic. See the comment: "I remove *either* 
>> the a or the d from this chord, I get up/down ties."
>>
>> \new Score {
>>   \new Staff {
>>     <<
>>       { \time 4/4 \partial 4 s4 | s4*2 }
>>       \new Voice = "zeroA03" \relative c' {
>>         \set tieWaitForNote = ##t
>>         <b b'>4 ~
>>         <b_~ b'^~>1 <b e f a b d>1
>>       }
>>       \context Voice = "zeroA03" \relative c' {
>>         s4
>>         s2.
>>         \hideNotes
>>         % if I remove *either* the a or the d from this chord,
>>         % I get up/down ties from <b b'> above
>>         \voiceTwo \tieNeutral <e f a d>4 ~
>>         \unHideNotes
>>       }
>>       % This displays the e-f-a-d notes
>>       % that are the source of the 4 extra ties.
>>       % Doesn't matter to <b b'> tie behavior
>>       %\new Voice = "zeroB03" \relative c' {
>>       %  s4
>>       %  \voiceTwo \tieNeutral r4 <f a>2 ~ <e f a d>4 %~
>>       %}
>>     >>
>>   }
>> }
>>
>> hjh
>
>
>
> You could do \override TieColumn.positioning-done = ##t, but be aware,
> using it means you are now responsible yourself for the Tie's
> directions.
> You tell LilyPond "Don't bother placing the Ties, I'll do"
>
> \new Score {
>   \new Staff {
>     <<
>       { \time 4/4 \partial 4 s4 | s4*2 }
>       \new Voice = "zeroA03" \relative c' {
>         \set tieWaitForNote = ##t
>         <b b'>4 ~
>         <b_~ b'^~>1
>         \once \override TieColumn.positioning-done = ##t
>         <b e f a b d>1
>       }
>       \context Voice = "zeroA03" \relative c' {
>         s4
>         s2.
>         \hideNotes
>         % if I remove *either* the a or the d from this chord,
>         % I get up/down ties from <b b'> above
>         \voiceTwo \tieNeutral <e_~ f_~ a^~ d^~ >4
>         \unHideNotes
>       }
>       % This displays the e-f-a-d notes
>       % that are the source of the 4 extra ties.
>       % Doesn't matter to <b b'> tie behavior
>       %\new Voice = "zeroB03" \relative c' {
>       %  s4
>       %  \voiceTwo \tieNeutral r4 <f a>2 ~ <e f a d>4 %~
>       %}
>     >>
>   }
> }
>
> Cheers,
>   Harm

Though the output is not convincing, imho.

I'd prefer:

\new Staff
  \relative c ' {
    \time 4/4
    \partial 4
    <b b'>4 ~
    <b b'>1\laissezVibrer
    <b e f a b d>1\repeatTie
  }

Probably lengthen the semi-ties a bit.


Cheers,
  Harm