Re: Solution to have repeats with upbeat and different alternatives??

[steve]

> Hi Steve,
>
> Just going to chime in here, that I believe it will come out like the
> latter version you prefer by default.
>

        I am finished the basic engraving for 3 guitars, but can't get the
repeats the
way they should be.

        I posted a piece of simplified code to illustrate. This is what
the default does
isnt 'it??

        https://ln.sync.com/dl/2d42a9350/ukfaa7s8-rpenm7ne-xqxv7mpk-x99vbzbw

   or what is the default?

              For interest, here is a page from the first edition, It has
the upbeat
in the repeat but then an obvious error in the first alternative, ie. it
repeats the upbeat at
the end of the bar.

https://ln.sync.com/dl/e1bb35540/twus49gv-5kwieeek-8ajtjrkd-vk72mh4s

 As far as standard practice, every version on imslp publised  after the
first edition
has "fixed" the error by moving the upbeat before the repeat.

    I agree that the second version with the upbeat in the repeat is
preferable, but
I can't seem to do it with lilypond.

      the code below prints an extraneous bar in the second alternative at
the end.

       So what is wrong with this code.??  How can we do this, what I
think most modern
engravers would consider more correct?


          thanx - steve


****************test.ly ***********


 \version "2.18.2"

music = \relative c''
{
    \time 3/4

    \partial 4 a8 a |
    a4 a a |

    \repeat volta2
    {
      b4 b b | b4 b b |
    }
    \alternative {
    { b4 b b | }
    { c4 c }
    }

    \repeat volta 2
    {
     d8 d | d4 d d |
    }
    \alternative {
    { d4 d }
    { e4 e4 e4 }
    }
}

\score { \music }

>Original is subjective here, some editor did that for some reason in the
> first example.  That's not really standard practice.
>
> Have you started scoring it for guitars yet? Are you experiencing an issue
> getting it to come out the way you want?
>
> Amy
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 12:07 PM, <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>>
>>        Well, I mean it appears that the same thing is scored
>> differently.
>> The first entrance
>> has the upbeat before the repeat. If you look at this link of the first
>> entrance with
>> the downbeat a half note C flat in the third system
>>
>> https://ln.sync.com/dl/e80999780/f4ravrje-6gg923k6-id9vw4ub-4bc39fdp
>>
>>    the second entrance,  in this link, the fourth system starts a repeat
>> that includes the upbeat.
>>
>> https://ln.sync.com/dl/17a64e740/7vb6gz87-hi7jxedr-x9rpws6e-tw7z5yma
>>
>>           The repeat is preceded by a second alternative that is an
>> incomplete measure of 2 beats. Not sure why it is notated
>> differently than its first entrance, in which has the upbeat  in
>> the second
>> alternative that precedes the repeat, but I do prefer the later, and in
>> my
>> arrangement of this work for 3 guitars I want to use the later solution
>> for both
>> for consistency. Or at least I want to maintain the original.
>>
>>  And I can't find a lilypond solution..   and / or a reason why they are
>> notated differently.
>>
>>  -steve
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi Steve,
>> >
>> > I'm unclear what the problem is. Seems also easy. Can you show your
>> code?
>> >
>> > I am also puzzled about you saying there are several ways to set the
>> first
>> > part. Again, I cant see how one would do it differently to how I
>> showed.
>> > This proves I don't know what you are referring to as your difficulty.
>> Can
>> > you elaborate?
>> >
>> > Keep it on the list - no need for a private chat. Others may
>> understand
>> > better than I what you want.
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> >
>> > On 18 May 2018 at 00:55, <address@hidden> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >  Hi Steve,
>> >> >
>> >> > Does this sketch help you out?
>> >>
>> >>          Thanks, I am aware of that solution... and there are a
>> couple
>> >> of
>> >> others...
>> >>
>> >>          I am trying to render this second appearance of this after
>> the
>> >> trio. Here is a
>> >> a page. The part I am interested in has the downbeat a C flat  half
>> note
>> >> and the
>> >> upbeat is in the repeat section.. Also the second alternative has 3
>> >> beats
>> >> and continues
>> >> into the coda.
>> >>
>> >> https://ln.sync.com/dl/17a64e740/7vb6gz87-hi7jxedr-x9rpws6e-tw7z5yma
>> >>
>> >>         Not sure why it is different than its first appearance? I
>> prefer
>> >> the later as it moves the entire phrase into the repeat
>> >> section....
>> >>
>> >>         -steve
>> >>
>> >>
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