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Re: 64 bit


From: Carl Sorensen
Subject: Re: 64 bit
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 18:56:04 +0000
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From: Eric <address@hidden>
Date: Monday, November 11, 2019 at 8:32 AM
To: <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: 64 bit

 

On the assumption that it would have been pointed out if this link was dangerous phished spam (apologies, Mr Sorensen!!) I have decided to install this development version to replace my slashed-out 32-bit Lilyponds. Has anyone else - or are others who use Mac Catalina waiting for Lilypond 2.20 to possibly include a 64-bit version (if even then) linked from the Lilypond site? I can't seem to find much followup on this topic, and nothing? in our mailing list (maybe I need to search better) that mentions the below (rather unusually large, maybe because 64-bit?) unofficial development update.

 

 

Eric,

 

I’m not sure what you are waiting for.

 

Right now, we are at the point where there is no way for us to make a lilypond 64-bit version because we need the Apple Xcode software, and the license allows it to be only used on Apple hardware.  We do not have Apple build hardware, and as a GNU project, it’s unlikely that using Apple build hardware for all of our distributions would be acceptable to the team.

 

I think  it’s possible that we could get an approved binary eventually hosted on the LilyPond website.  A couple of developers are trying to make that happen.

 

In the meantime, Hans has provided an installable distributable package created in MacPorts, which is at the link referred to below.  I’ve mirrored that link on a site that might be considered to be less dangerous for spam or phishing:

 

  https://www.et.byu.edu/~sorensen/lilypond-devel-2.19.83_2.mpkg

 

I’m only aware of one person who has installed that package, and they found that it works and it is a 64-bit package.

 

You can read more about this on the lilypond-devel archives:

 

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2019-10/msg00059.html

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2019-10/msg00272.html

 

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2019-10/msg00063.html

 

I think our best hope going forward is for Marnen to succeed in making a 64-bit lilypond.app.  I really hope he’s successful.

 

Thanks,

 

Carl

 

 

 

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 10:47 PM <address@hidden> wrote:

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   1. Re:Lilypond on OS X Catalina (Chris Crossen)
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   3. Re:Lilypond on OS X Catalina (Carl Sorensen)
   4. Re:64 bit (Carl Sorensen)



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chris Crossen <address@hidden>
To: Allan Kinnaird <address@hidden>
Cc: Carl Sorensen <address@hidden>, "address@hidden" <address@hidden>
Bcc: 
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:29:39 -0700
Subject: Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina


> On Oct 17, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work out how to use Hans’s version.
> Allan

I have Catalina installed on a Mac laptop. I downloaded the installer and am running it now. I’ll report back when I have some results to share.








---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chris Crossen <address@hidden>
To: Allan Kinnaird <address@hidden>, Carl Sorensen <address@hidden>, "address@hidden" <address@hidden>
Cc: 
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 18:46:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina


> On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:29 PM, Chris Crossen <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work out how to use Hans’s version.
>> Allan
>
> I have Catalina installed on a Mac laptop. I downloaded the installer and am running it now. I’ll report back when I have some results to share.

The install was successful. I didn’t know where it installed, but found it in /opt/lilypond .

It successfully generated a correct-looking pdf and midi (I’ll verify them tomorrow) from a single source file (no includes but english.ly). The file was already version 2.19. I’ll try using convert-ly and more complex files tomorrow.

Since this may not be of general interest, please give me some guidance on whether to continue posting to the group or confine it to those interested.












---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Carl Sorensen <address@hidden>
To: Chris Crossen <address@hidden>, Allan Kinnaird <address@hidden>, "address@hidden" <address@hidden>
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 02:42:37 +0000
Subject: Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina


On 10/17/19, 7:46 PM, "Chris Crossen" <address@hidden> wrote:



    > On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:29 PM, Chris Crossen <address@hidden> wrote:
    >
    >> Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work out how to use Hans’s version.
    >> Allan
    >
    > I have Catalina installed on a Mac laptop. I downloaded the installer and am running it now. I’ll report back when I have some results to share.

    The install was successful. I didn’t know where it installed, but found it in /opt/lilypond .

That's where it was supposed to be.

    It successfully generated a correct-looking pdf and midi (I’ll verify them tomorrow) from a single source file (no includes but english.ly). The file was already version 2.19. I’ll try using convert-ly and more complex files tomorrow.

Yes, it was made from the latest development release, 2.19.83

    Since this may not be of general interest, please give me some guidance on whether to continue posting to the group or confine it to those interested.


 Please report your experiences.

Here's some test code that has been known to fail on 32-bit lilypond executables, but succeed on 64-bit linux executables.

%%%% Start of code

\version "2.19.82"
{
  \time 4/4
  \repeat unfold 1000 { c4 d e f } % TEN PAGES of music
  \repeat unfold 1000 { f1 } % + SIX MORE PAGES of music
  \repeat unfold 1000 { c4 d e f } % BUT WHEN ADDING MORE PAGES, fail NOW
}

%%%%% End of code

I expect it to work, but it would be nice to get a confirmation.

It's nice to know that this package can be installed.

Thanks,

Arl











---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Carl Sorensen <address@hidden>
To: "marco.massobrio" <address@hidden>, "address@hidden" <address@hidden>
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 02:47:13 +0000
Subject: Re: 64 bit

 

From: "marco.massobrio" <address@hidden>
Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 11:12 PM
To: <address@hidden>
Subject: 64 bit

 

 

I Havel installed catalina 10.15 on my Mac andiamo lilypond 2.19.83 don't run

HELP!!!!!

 

 

Install the package from here:  https://web2.storegate.com/share/oCQjV4r

 

HTH,

 

Carl

 

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