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RE: Problem with cross-staff colliding notes


From: Mark Stephen Mrotek
Subject: RE: Problem with cross-staff colliding notes
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:07:13 -0700

Claire,

 

Shall try somethings this morning and get back to you.

 

Mark

 

From: Claire Meyer [mailto:claire.meyer.bourhis.lilypond@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2020 9:40 AM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek <carsonmark@ca.rr.com>
Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Problem with cross-staff colliding notes

 

Mark,

 

Thank you very much. Well, yes, the cross-staff is necessary, so I've been trying to follow the examples in the documentation you sent, but either I'm missing something, either they just don't apply to my case, or it's what I've already used. The \change Staff and \autochange commands only apply to whole chords or single notes, not to partial chords (my case). And I have tried to apply them, believe me (hence why I'm replying so late). Which leaves me with the \crossStaff command, which is the one I already used, but it doesn't say anything about avoiding collisions, which is my problem. I must have missed the documentation part you wanted me to see or something, can you elaborate ?

 

Claire

 

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 12:49 AM Mark Stephen Mrotek <carsonmark@ca.rr.com> wrote:

Claire,

 

Some suggestions.

Use only two voices, one in each staff.

The treble clef in the lower staff is a result of the “grace note bug.” A spacer grace note must be put in the lower staff aligned to the one in the upper staff.

If cross staff stems is necessary you can create a second voice in the upper staff and follow

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-keyboards

Attached is my setting of the piece.

 

Mark

 

 

From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr.com@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Claire Meyer
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 11:42 AM
To: Lilypond-User Mailing List <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Problem with cross-staff colliding notes

 

Hi,

 

I'm trying to reproduce a piano score that has a lot of cross-staff notes, some of them colliding. There are 3 voices :

- one for the right hand on the upper staff,

- one for the left hand on the lower staff,

- and for the left hand on the upper staff.

That last voice is the cross-staffed one. Because the right hand overlaps a bit with the left, some collisions happen because the overlapping notes are written on the same staff.

 

In the snippet that I'm sharing, there are two problematic bars :

- on the first bar, I "solved" the problem (the pair of Fs). I tried looking at lilypond examples to see for something matching, found something, applied it and it worked, but I have no idea why (and I'd be grateful for an explanation).

- then for the second bar, there are two pairs of F, and I'd like the same thing as for the first bar, but have not been successful in any attempt to do so (admittedly because I didn't understand how I solved my problem the first time around).

- in the snippet that I provide, I also seem to have a weird treble clef, and I don't why. I don't have it in my full score, it happened when I trimmed my score to provide the snippet, so it's not a big deal to me, but if someone can explain, I'm grateful too.

 

The snippet is on lilybin : http://lilybin.com/7w0cet/2

 

Thanks to anyone who can help!

Claire

 


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