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Re: Placement of dynamic hairpins under chords with seconds


From: Timothy Lanfear
Subject: Re: Placement of dynamic hairpins under chords with seconds
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2021 18:50:44 +0100
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On 07/08/2021 14:33, Knute Snortum wrote:
On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:12 AM Brian Barker <b.m.barker@btinternet.com> wrote:
At 11:59 06/08/2021 -0700, Knute Snortum wrote:
I have a minor quibble. If you have a dynamic hairpin under a chord
with a second interval, the hairpin extends a little to the left (to
cover the whole chord?)  I think it should only extend to the stem.
I'm not an expert in engraving but the sheet music I've seen seems
to back this up. What do you guys think?
Does Elaine Gould count as a "guy"? She says "A hairpin should start
at the first relevant notehead (not accidental) and end with the
following notehead or at the first rest thereafter. Good practice is
to start the hairpin on the left-hand edge of the note and to finish
it on the right-hand edge of a note" (Behind Bars, p. 104). She
doesn't include examples of what she calls "adjacent-note chords",
but her examples of notes with stems up show the hairpins starting at
the left of the first notehead, not the stem. If you put \stemUp into
your second example, you will see that Lilypond follows this principle.

Brian Barker
Thanks for your insight into this.  I guess LilyPond is "doing the
standard thing," as usual. Hairpins to the left it is!

Version 2.23 has a new feature to configure the start and end alignment of hairpins. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes#dynamics in the Selected Snippets section.


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Timothy Lanfear, Bristol, UK.




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