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Re: Ornamentation in Bach's piece


From: Jun Tamura
Subject: Re: Ornamentation in Bach's piece
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:33:07 +0900

Hello Martin,

2021/09/20 15:46、Martin Straeten <martin.straeten@gmail.com>のメール:

here my workround for this:

graceSchleifer =
#(define-music-function (parser location note) (ly:music?)
  (make-music 'SequentialMusic
   'elements (list #{
              \once \override Voice.NoteHead #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
              \once \override Voice.NoteHead #'X-extent = #'(-2 . -0)
              \once \override Voice.NoteHead #'text =
              #(markup #:large #:halign .2 #:raise 0.0 #:combine #:halign .8 #:musicglyph "scripts.prall"  
              #:rotate 140 #:normalsize #:raise 2.4 #:musicglyph "flags.u3")
              \once \override Stem #'stencil = ##f
     \once \override Flag #'stencil = ##f #}
              note)))

usage: \grace{\graceSchleifer c16} e --> c16 indicates the pitch of the prall.

Am So., 19. Sept. 2021 um 21:06 Uhr schrieb Hans Åberg <haberg-1@telia.com>:

> On 19 Sep 2021, at 14:44, 田村淳 <j.tamura@me.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Lukas,
>
>> 2021/09/19 21:14、Lukas-Fabian Moser <lfm@gmx.de>のメール:
>>
>> Hi Jun,
>>
>> Am 19.09.21 um 09:07 schrieb 田村淳:
>>> Is there a snipett to realize this?
>>> This is from the 3rd movement of the Sonata for Viola da Gamba and Harpsichord in G-minor, BWV 1029, by J. S. Bach.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your kind help.
>>>
>>> Jun
>>>
>>> <ornamentation.jpg>
>> I think that's an instance of
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6127
>>
>> https://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=720
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/503
>>
>> Lukas
>>
> Thank you. My question/request is identical to the issue #6127.
>
> According to the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slide_(musical_ornament), the Schleifer can be used for arbitrary interval while J. S. Bach seems to have used it for third very often. I think that a solution with a fixed symbol for third would be beneficial at least for those who have been typesetting Bach’s music often.

The Harvard Concise discusses it in the article on double appoggiatura, essentially a variation of two merged appoggiaturas a third apart. The symbol itself is called a direct, custos in Latin, in early manuscripts used at the end of staff to warn about the next note.

Wow! Thank you!! This looks great!!!

With your \graceSchleifer:

From Bärenreiter NBA:

Cheers.

Jun



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