Re: use of \caesura requires \include "gregorian.ly", according to the Notation Reference

[Valentin Petzel]

Hi Ken,

I’d argue than in this example the Caesura is placed in a weird way, so we 
need to tell Lilypond to actually do it this way. That can be achieved by 
something as simple as

caesura = 
  \tweak text \markup\musicglyph "scripts.caesura.straight"
  \tweak outside-staff-priority 100
  \tweak space-alist
  #'((ambitus extra-space . 0)                  ; we could do '() 
if we can live with warnings
     (custos minimum-space . 0)
     (key-signature minimum-space . 0)
     (time-signature minimum-space . 0)
     (staff-bar minimum-space . 0)
     (clef minimum-space . 0)
     (cue-clef minimum-space . 0)
     (cue-end-clef minimum-space . 0)
     (first-note fixed-space . 0)
     (right-edge extra-space . 0))
  \breathe

{
  r4 e8 g b[
  \caesura
  d' f' g']
} \addlyrics {
  just a step be -- yond the
}

Cheers,
Valentin

Am Sonntag, 1. Mai 2022, 18:19:26 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> Hi Phil;
> 
>   Lilypond 2.22.2 Notation Reference explicitly states that.
> 
>   Thanks for your 2.23 documentation link as it does help, but by no
> means looks like what I need (see attachment).
> 
> Thanks,
> Ken
> 
> On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 2:27 AM Phil Holmes <mail@philholmes.net> wrote:
> > AFAICS there is no requirement to use gregorian.ly to get a caesura.
> > Why do you think there is?
> > 
> > See
> > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-as-> 
> > > curves#breath-marks> 
> > On 01/05/2022 06:38, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > > Hi;
> > > 
> > > I see that the use of \caesura requires \include "gregorian.ly",
> > > according to the Notation Reference.
> > > 
> > > But doing this completely screws up all the default display Lilypond
> > > code that I've been using all along.
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to engrave "Somewhere Over the Rainbow", which definitely
> > > does not belong in the Gregorian time period or style.
> > > 
> > > Yet this piece of music does have two instances of a caesura.
> > > 
> > > Is there a solution to this conundrum?  Can I safely cherry pick the
> > > definition of the caesura out of the "gregorian.ly" file?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ken Wolcott

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