Re: ottava spanner terminates at the end of the note, not the end of the bar

[Valentin Petzel]

Hi Ken,

I'd argue that being a professional composer does not imply being versed in 
musical typesetting (similar to how most professional writers do know little 
about typesetting).

In fact I'd say many professional composers want to spend their time composing 
and getting their compositions performed, not so much worrying about the 
intricacies of musical typesetting.

By the way: I'd just slightly increase the height-limit for the final slur in 
the bottom staff. Such kind slurs tend to be a bit tight and flat with the 
default of (I believe) 2.5.

Cheers,
Valentin

14.05.2022 23:58:58 Kenneth Wolcott <kennethwolcott@gmail.com>:

> Hi Valentin;
> 
>   Thank you for your insights.  I think I'll just drop this attempt to
> reproduce exactly what the last transcriber/arranger tried to
> accomplish (even though the person in question is an established
> modern day composer, David Bruce).
> 
>   I appreciate both you and Aaron sharing your expertise.
> 
> Ken
> 
> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 2:54 AM Valentin Petzel <valentin@petzel.at> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Ken,
>> 
>> As far as I know Lilypond's behaviour here is pretty much the standard 
>> behaviour, as done by most Software, Editions and recommended by Gould. Thus 
>> doing ottava markings like this should be considered uncommon notation. 
>> Considering Tchaikovsky is not exactly modern music I think it is viable to 
>> say that in this case it is your original source that deviates from common 
>> and expected practise.
>> 
>> It is a known problem that while the ottava bracket looks like a line 
>> spanner it is not a line spanner and does not follow the same interface. 
>> This means that for properly implementing this you'd need to rewrite the 
>> ottava bracket engraver.
>> 
>> But the question is whether you really want to copy your source exactly, 
>> even replicating such cases of uncommon engraving style that might just have 
>> been the result of someone who is not versed in engraving using some 
>> software that does not handle such things correctly by default.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Valentin
>> 
>> 14.05.2022 05:29:21 Kenneth Wolcott <kennethwolcott@gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> Hi;
>>> 
>>>   The ottava spanner terminates at the end of the note, not at the end
>>> of the bar.
>>> 
>>>   How to change this?
>>> 
>>>   Screenshots attached.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ken Wolcott