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Re: Openlilylib


From: David Santamauro
Subject: Re: Openlilylib
Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 10:12:06 +0000

Just another Dorico opinion, not in any way denying yours…

 

I’ve worked with Dorico for the last few years exclusively for mockups of original work , transcriptions and orchestrations. It is a tremendous piece of software in particular the playback engine. There is definitely a steep learning curve but once one understands the concept behind the software, it becomes incredibly easy to input, edit and play scores. Depending on your software instruments and the intricacies of your playback templates, rendering the performance can be  extremely realistic.

 

As for the forum, I don’t live there so I don’t catch every thread, but my experience has been generally positive. There are many “gurus” lurking there that can answer most questions and I’ve never seen any animosity towards other forum members (excepting, of course, the usual RTFM answers …)

 

Stability has also never been a problem for me. My template is huge: full orchestra routed to 8 instances of Vienna Server housing more than 1.5T of software instrument samples. My template used ~ 128G in-memory. Aside from having to get a coffee while it loaded, working in it for extended periods of time was rather uneventful from a stability standpoint.

 

I am definitely not advocating for anyone to switch / trial / whatever to Dorico. It is simply another tool in my box with which to solve particular problems. I use (have been for well over a decade) lilypond exclusively for copying scores as it is by far the fastest way for me to input notes and get the score as close as possible to the original edition I’m copying. The added benefit of midi allows me to toss that output into a sequencer if I want to turn it into a mockup.

 

I’m sorry you didn’t have a good experience with Dorico, but I just wanted to share a differing opinion.

 

David

 

From: lilypond-user <lilypond-user-bounces+david.santamauro=gmail.com@gnu.org> on behalf of Andrew Bernard <andrew.bernard@mailbox.org>
Date: Friday, May 27, 2022 at 4:26 AM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Openlilylib

Hello All,

Having had to abandon the Openlilylib (OLL) work I took over from Urs
Liska, for various reasons, in the meantime I went over to Dorico
instead of Lilypond for my work. Having spent a lot of money on Dorico
(AUD$800+) and given it my best shot for more than year, it really falls
short for the modernist work that I do, dogmatically follows the Gould
rule book and does not let you override most of that (it's what software
people call an opinionated program), crashes often with the latest
release and they cant solve it and just remain silent, and worse, the
forum which I initially thought helpful is turning out to be quite toxic
and I get a lot of personal abuse. along with deprecating comments about
the music I work on. Consequently I have binned Dorico as of yesterday
and I am coming back to lilypond.

The upshot of that is that I suppose I should revive the OLL work. I'll
recreate the dedicated server I set up, recreate the Discourse forum for
discussion, and work on the git repository, then people can
collaboratively work together again and I can take pull requests and so on.

I stalled initially a couple of years ago when I decided to totally
refactor the OLL github repostory, but now I think if we open it up
again as is and I work on that on the background which would be useful.

I'll pay for the server resources out of my own pocket, but provide a
Paypal link for donations for running costs (server, domain name, etc).

Andrew



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