Re: [m17n-list] Cedilla

[Florêncio Neves]

I thought a little more about this and I concluded that the most
reasonable thing to do here is to provide a faithful copy of
Microsoft's US International keyboard layout.

This is a keyboard layout that allows you to insert all Latin-1
(ISO-8859-1) characters, and nothing else.  Besides solving the
cedilla issue, it has a nice balance between coverage and
intrusiveness.  You can get all of the most common accented characters
used in Western European languages ('a to get an á, "a for ä, etc),
but lacks inexistent combinations in those languages ('s does not
produce ś, for example).  This is handy for people who type a mixture
of English (where the sequences 's and 't occur frequently but there
is no ś) and some other Western European language.

Also, this keyboard layout has been available in Windows for a very
long time and some people coming from that platform may find it handy
to have an identical keyboard in thier *nix system.

A description of this layout can be found in several places:
 * http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards1.asp
 * http://www.microsoft.com/resources/msdn/goglobal/keyboards/kbdusx.html
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY#US-International

On 12/30/13, Kenichi Handa <address@hidden> wrote:
> In article
> <address@hidden>,
> Flor�+4ncio Neves <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> Since Gnome integrated IBus, gtk's cedilla immodule doesn't work for
>> me anymore.  But in fact it might be better to report the issue to
>> Gnome and let them decide whether a solution through IBus/m17n is the
>> most desirable one.
>
> If Gnome itself is not going to recover the previous cedilla
> facility, there's no problem in providing it in m17n.  But,
> before including such a workaround input method, I'd like to
> confirm that it doesn't get useless very soon.
>
>> By the way, let me comment on the latn-pre input method.  It is great
>> in that it enables you to type in the vast majority of European
>> languages.  However, it has so many dead keys that some people might
>> consider it unusable.  For instance, typing
>>   http://example.com/home
>> yields
>>   http:°example�+/om�)Dome
>
> I see.
>
>> There is a couple of ways in which this might be improved.  One
>> possibility would be to provide a way for the user to choose which
>> keys are dead keys; then, everybody who doesn't need the period and
>> slash to be dead keys (and that applies to most Western European
>> languages) could disable it, making the IM less intrusive.
>
>> A second possibility would be to provide a new input method which is
>> similar to the existing latn-pre but where only the keys ' " ` ~ ^ are
>> dead keys.  This would be sufficient to type most Western European
>> languages and wouldn't suffer from excessive dead keys.
>
>> A third possibility would be to have a minimal input method for each
>> Latin language, as in Emacs.
>
>> Let me know if you find any of these worth including in m17n.  I could
>> then help implementing it.
>
> Thank you for the ideas.  How about the mixture of the first
> and the third ones; i.e. we provide a facility to choose a
> language in latin-pre?
>
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> Kenichi Handa
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