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Re: [Monotone-devel] Version 0.46 breaks monotone-viz and mtn-browse


From: Nuno Lucas
Subject: Re: [Monotone-devel] Version 0.46 breaks monotone-viz and mtn-browse
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:05:58 +0000
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Thomas Keller wrote:
I've contacted Anthony E. Cooper (the author of mtn-browse and the
underlying perl lib) before the release of 0.46 and he said he was
willing to provide an updated version shortly after the release. I don't
know what his current status is however.

The issue with monotone-viz is a bit different. Olivier told me that he
cannot actively develop on this application anymore, but is still
willing to provide smallish updates. Thomas Moschny contacted him
already afaik because he packages monotone with Fedora and has a broken
monotone-viz package as well...

In general the modifications to both programs / libs should be rather
smallish - I've adapted the code for guitone in about half an hour
(while ignoring out-of-band chatter and especially tickers, but even
that should be doable in less than a day).

I understand this, but my original point was more related to the discussion that it becomes a bit boring waiting for the "final" 1.0 stable version.

I've been using monotone since 0.16 (or 0.18, can't remember well) and been loving it for it's simplicity and, in general, way of doing things. I can't even remember how many time has passed since then (I'm guessing 2 to 3 years).

I understand that there is lack of developers for the project, but maybe it's time to stop waiting for the BIG refactoring that will solve all problems and think on just finalize what it already does right.

There is that saying that good software is not the one with the great algorithms but the one that actually gets released. On open source, that doesn't apply directly, but actually having a stable version is more or less the same.

I have no doubts that sooner or later mtn-browse and monotone-viz will be fixed, but this problem should not happen on a stable version release.

Anyway, take this as a mere pat in the back from a bit frustrated long time user. Ignore it completely at your discretion.

If anybody seeks for implementation help on any of these two clients,
drop me a note via IRC, I'm happy to help out.

If only those programs were implemented on a sane language... ;-)

Best regards, and sorry for the rant.

~Nuno Lucas

Thomas.





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