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Re: [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system'


From: Claudio Fontana
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system'
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 15:41:28 +0200
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On 10/4/23 14:37, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 04/10/2023 14.33, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 11:06:15AM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>>> This series finishes the cleanup which remove the confusion
>>> of using 'softmmu' when we really mean 'system emulation',
>>> as opposition to 'user emulation'.
>>
>> Am I mis-understanding what you mean by 'finishes' here, as
>> I see many references to softmmu remaining
>>
>>    $ git grep softmmu | wc -l
>>    270
>>
>> In particular under configs/
>>
>> I was also hoping it meant that we'd be changing configure
>> to allow
>>
>>      configure --target-list=x86_64-system
>>
>> though the lazy side of me would like
>>
>>      configure --target-list=x86_64-vm
>>
>> for less typing
> 
> Maybe we should also bikeshed about the naming first... "system" is a quite 
> overloaded word in this context already, and "vm" sounds rather like 
> hardware-accelerated stuff ... what about using something like "sysemu"? Or 
> "fullsys" for "full system emulation" (in contrast to "user space"-only 
> emulation)?
> 
>   Thomas
> 
> 

Just my 2c, to me "system" is the only word that makes sense here, even from a 
purely user perspective.

We already have exposed "system" to the user as a way to mean this, as in:

./configure --enable-system
./configure --disable-system

and if everything is renamed from softmmu to system where it makes sense in the 
code,
it's the best option for development as well in my view.

Thanks,

Claudio





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