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Re: [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system'


From: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] misc: Rename 'softmmu' -> 'system'
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 16:06:36 +0200
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On 4/10/23 15:49, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 3:41 PM Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de> wrote:

On 10/4/23 14:37, Thomas Huth wrote:
On 04/10/2023 14.33, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
Am I mis-understanding what you mean by 'finishes' here, as
I see many references to softmmu remaining
In particular under configs/

I was also hoping it meant that we'd be changing configure
to allow

      configure --target-list=x86_64-system
      configure --target-list=x86_64-vm

for less typing

Maybe we should also bikeshed about the naming first... "system" is a quite
overloaded word in this context already, and "vm" sounds rather like
hardware-accelerated stuff ... what about using something like "sysemu"? Or
"fullsys" for "full system emulation" (in contrast to "user space"-only
emulation)?

I agree that changing other remnants should be done right
after this patch, for example $softmmu in configure. Changing
all targets is a very large and very user-visible change, it is
required but it should be planned very well.

As usual I should have been more verbose in my cover.

This series focus on the C code (and travis) to avoid misuse
of 'softmmu'.

Yes I agree it would be nice to also rename the binaries, but
this is a buildsys change (even if we use symlinks/aliases for
some deprecation period). This is not a tiny patch, and requires
thoughts.

On one hand I'd rather not rush renaming binaries -- annoying
users -- without a clear long term plan (which I'm not clear about).

On another hand I wouldn't delay Richard user-mode work.
Renaming binaries seems orthogonal to me, and could be done
later IMO.

As to the actual target names, I think system is the only
consistent choice since we have --enable/--disable-system
(as pointed out by Claudio) and qemu-system-*.  sysemu
may make a little more sense in the codebase (we have
include/sysemu after all), but maybe that ship has sailed
since we have many occurrences of "system", for example
system_ss and other related sourcesets.

Paolo





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