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From: Mario Castelan Castro
Subject: [Savannah-hackers-public] Possibly inappropriate usage of project elisp-es by <SuSo>
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:18:03 -0600

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2010-11-01 in address@hidden copy to David Vázquez
<address@hidden>, Antonio Barrones <address@hidden> thread
"Possibly inappropriate usage of project elisp-es by <SuSo>".

Hello.

I have been informed and I have checked myself that user SuSo (susomc in
GNU Savannah) is using the elisp-es project hosted here [1] to advertise
his translation of GNU emacs documentation.  However, he don't cooperate
with the other members of the elisp-es project by arguing (In spanish
language) it's impossible to meet the required "industrial" standards
and requirements with the conventional free software development
process, as used in GNU Savannah [2].  Apart from untrue as proven by
hundreds of free projects this is _also_ a fallacy, by implying there is
only one development methodology in the free software
"mundillo"/"worldish" which we're forced to follow.

The translated documentation has been actually published outside GNU
Savannah in [2], in HTML format.  The source (In texinfo format) hasn't
been published as of this date, even after request by David and Antonio
(Members of the elisp-es project, they are on the CC list).

This behavior is inaceptable, don't just the SuSo statements spurn the
value of the conventional free software development methodology, but the
denial of source code difficults very much the essential right to modify
the work.  Basically SuSo is using GNU Savannah as a news aggregator and
advertising platform to promote his sourceless translation.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  I think this is a violation of the GNU
Savannah hosting requirements [3] because:

* GNU Savannah is a free software and documentation development
  platform.  SuSo don't develop his translation in GNU Savannah, merely
  links to an external site.

* The absence of source code impose an obstacle to the freedom to modify
  it.  Savannah is meant to be used in a way which promotes free
  software and free documentation and hence the user freedoms.  To deny
  the source code do the opposite.

I'm going to ask SuSo to reflect about the issue and reconsider his
stance.  I consider inmoral -and hope you agree- the fact SuSo spurn our
community and deny us the source code on one hand, and on the another he
is using Savannah to promote that.

Let me know your thoughts.

Regards.

[1]: https://savannah.nongnu.org/p/elisp-es
[2]: http://gnu.manticore.es/manual-introduccion-emacs-lisp
[3]: https://savannah.gnu.org/register/requirements.php
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