[Savannah-hackers] Re: [ 101225 ] Import bashdb to CVS, please.

[R. Bernstein]

Sorry, I must have must have missed your e-mail from Aug 25th where
you thought you set up bashdb in CVS. Inlining your comment at the end
makes it easier to miss what you are reporting. This is was also the
case in your last e-mail. So here I'll try to not inline comments
which in general can lead to confusion. 

A test of a CVS checkout probably would have caught the problem. I
suggest this be normal procedure when projects are imported into
CVS. A more general principle is to test work by pretending to be a
consumer and not rely on visual inspection of directories.  My guess
is that a problem was due to the fact that my home machine has more
stringent permissions on the CVSROOT *directories* than can be used on
a public CVS server, "others" can't write. I don't think the problem
was that a lock file existed.

Sure, your backup person can be busy. But that person has failed to
COMMUNICATE:
 - that he/she is busy or 
 - that *you* are on vacation, or
 - that things might (therefore) take a little time

Sending status when things are backed-up to let people know where
things stand is very important; it doesn't have to take all that much
time. 

There was no reply to my mail on August 28, and I sent mail or thought
I sent e-mail after that indicating that if I didn't hear any status I
was going to move the project to sourceforge. Perhaps this was e-mail
lost; I think I sent it privately or perhaps it was one of the e-mails
you mentioned being lost in the week before Sept 6. in
http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/savannah-hackers/2002-September/011062.html

Mathieu Roy writes:
 > > that this was likely to be the case to me and your Savannah colleagues.
 > > That would have been real cool. 
 > 
 > This is the last mails sent to you


 > 
 > ===
 >  From nobody Fri Aug 23 18:50:57 2002
 > From: Mathieu Roy <address@hidden>
 > To: address@hidden
 > Cc: address@hidden
 > Subject: Re: Import from CVS of bashdb
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 > "R. Bernstein" <address@hidden> said:
 > 
 > > Now that I have a bashdb project, I'd like to import into Savannah's CVS
 > > keeping the version history in CVS that I currently have. 
 > > 
 > > After reading the
 > > http://savannah.gnu.org/docs/admin.php#CVS%20repositories and
 > > experience with sourceforge.net, a guess is that I need to send you a
 > > tarball of the CVS tree (Root + Respository). Right? If so, where
 > > would I put the tarball? If not, what should I do?
 > 
 > It's right. 
 > The easiest way to do so is to put the tarball on your project
 > download area and give us it's url.  You can also send it to me by
 > mail (< 1MB).
 > 
 > Regards,
 > 
 > ===
 > 
 > >From nobody Fri Aug 23 22:10:27 2002
 > From: Mathieu Roy <address@hidden>
 > To: address@hidden
 > Cc: address@hidden
 > Subject: Re: Import from CVS of bashdb
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 > "R. Bernstein" <address@hidden> said:
 > 
 > > Mathieu Roy writes:
 > >  > It's right. 
 > >  > The easiest way to do so is to put the tarball on your project
 > >  > download area and give us it's url.  
 > > 
 > > I tried this: 
 > > scp bash-debugger-cvs.tar.gz address@hidden:/upload/bashdb
 > > 
 > > Alas, the password that I use to login does not seem to work. 
 > > The DSA key fingerprint is aa:3a:55:af:89:20:b0:d7:cd:26:55:58:9f:b9:14:34.
 > > passed though. 
 > > 
 > > You can also send it to me by
 > >  > mail (< 1MB).
 > > 
 > > I'd do but the tar.gz is >1.9MB and sending base64 encoded is going to
 > > make it even larger.
 > > 
 > > Suggestions? 
 > 
 > Can you put to temporary url?
 > 
 > About scp:
 > You cannot use your savannah password with ssh connection. We want
 > users to register an SSH key, and so use a passphrase.
 > 
 > So you must register a key. Follow the faq to get it working without
 > troubles
 > 
 > http://sv.gnu.org/faq/?group=savannah
 > 
 > Regards,
 > 
 > Sorry for the delay.
 > 
 > ===
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 > To: address@hidden
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 > Subject: Re: Import from CVS of bashdb
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 > "R. Bernstein" <address@hidden> said:
 > 
 > > Mathieu Roy writes:
 > >  > Can you put to temporary url?
 > > 
 > > Have registered an SSH key. So this worked: 
 > >   scp bash-debugger-cvs.tar.gz freesoftware.fsf.org:/upload/bashdb
 > > 
 > > It is a relative (which of course is the default in GNU tar!) the
 > > tail end of it looks like this:
 > > 
 > > ./bash/.cvsignore,v
 > > ./bash/Attic/
 > > 
 > > Hmm.... It occurs to me that you might want to rename that, e.g. to
 > > bashdb, after untarring. Dunno - up to you. And of course it'd be no
 > > problem doing likewise on my end if you want me to copy again.
 > > 
 > > But please either make it available on CVS or let me know what I need
 > > to do. Thanks!
 > > 
 > >  > Sorry for the delay.
 > > 
 > > And me too. But some of delay was waiting for the cron job to kick in
 > > to copy the identity file. The rest, I just took advantage of doing
 > > more hacking.
 > 
 > It should be working now.
 > 
 > Regards,
 > 
 > ===
 > 
 > 
 > X-Gnus-Article-Number: 115   Fri Aug 23 18:50:57 2002
 > X-Gnus-Article-Number: 120   Fri Aug 23 22:10:27 2002
 > X-Gnus-Article-Number: 144   Sun Aug 25 01:30:35 2002
 > 
 > I received no mail from you between the Aug 25 and the 27 Aug, begin
 > of my vacation.
 > The last mail said "It should be working now." I check at this moment
 > for remaining locks, and found no locks. Without answer, I was
 > thinking that everything is ok.
 > 
 > > Worse, you have no backup person. If you disappear for 2 weeks --
 > > nothing happens.
 > 
 > We have backup person but they can busy too.
 > 
 > > Two weeks to get a project imported to CVS is pretty sucky. When you
 > > did your CVS import, I doubt you tried to do a checkout or no doubt
 > > you would have seen a problem as I and others have.
 > 
 > Your project was imported into the CVS in the next hour since you
 > provide a decent tarball. There was no lock remaining.
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > -- 
 > Mathieu Roy
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