[Savannah-hackers] Re: Fast approaching MUG v.1.0

[Mathieu Roy]

Hi,

I'm not sure to fully understand your text. English is not my mother
tongue. 

But if I'm not mistaking, your project is absolutely not a free
software project. 

So, this project cannot be hosted on Savannah. And I'm curious about
the possibility for this project to be a GNU project. 

Note also that I do not think that the FSF have interest in collecting
fees with proprietary software distribution.

I really wonder how "The final result will enhance freedom". Someone
previously said, in 1917, that final result will enhance freedom. 
I'm pretty sure that the end does not justify the means.


Since it's seems too weird to me, I'll add some comments to the yanked
text. I hope that the only problem is my boring english. If so,
please, reformulate. 


Nick Hill <address@hidden> said:

> I am starting a GNU project called MUG.
> 
> This stands for 'MUG's Unlike GNU'
> 
> This project will differ from GNU in several ways. 
> 
> 1) The final useable result of the project will be a rivalrous resource. If
> you want to share this resource with a friend, you will be deprived whilst
> your friend is using it.

If I share a recipe with a friend, I no longer can use this recipe?
Why?
Why would someone share something with his friends if it means
loosing abilities?

 
> 2) The available source code will not, on it's own, be sufficient to
> compile a functioning version. Due to the nature of this project,
> the libraries this project is compiled against are not in the
> information domain. However, When technology is available to convert
> the libraries into a format for as easy and free replication on a
> free system, we shall do so.

What is the "information domain"?
I guess it means proprietary. "Due to the nature of this project" is
not an argument. I do not understand.
 
> 3) The final released result will not be easily modified or freely
> re-compiled due to the nature of the project. However, technology
> may, at some time change this situation.

Another "Due to the nature".
I do not get it either.
 
> 4) A fee will be charged by GNU for each instance of this project's
> result.  (This will help raise funds for resources needed by the FSF
> and FSF-Europe).

What is an "instance of this project's result"?
 
> 5) Until we have replication technology, we can pinpoint where each
> instance of the result of this project have come into existence.
> 
> In other ways, it is similar to Gnu:
> 1) The relevant source code, to the greatest extent practicable, will be
> made available for general use under a copyleft-type license.

But how do you define which code relevant?

> 2) The final result will be available from GNU.

This is not a similarity. It's a technical possibility.

> 3) The project will be practical and reliable.

Are you trying to sell washing powder?
 
> 4) The final result will enhance freedom.

...

> 5) This project will take a light-hearted humerous approach. The
> final result may make people smile and think.

Hey, I'm a funny guy too. Ask to my cat.
 
> 6) Be particularly hacker-friendly

I'm also particularly hacker-friendly...
But who are hackers?
 
> 7) Continues the GNU recursive acronym naming tradition into new
> fields.

I was thinking it was mainly a unix tradition, not especially a GNU
one. But that's a detail.

> 8) Community input will improve successive versions.

Maybe.

> I am looking for contributions to this project in the form of source
> code (artwork, humour, suggestions) and to have a discussion forum
> for this project.
> 
> I would like somewhere to host this project. My first thought was to host
> it at savannah- 1) The savannah audience would add and receive most value
> from this project. 2) The savannah system has the useful functionality.
> 3) The savannah system will add to the approach of treating this project as
> software to illustrate how _different_ software is from hard objects.
> 
> However, certain conditions on the savannah remit seem to preclude
> inclusion. I would like input on how the savannah system may host this
> project. 


IMHO, your project is not free. But I would be glad to hear that I'm
completely mistaking. 

Regards,


-- 
Mathieu Roy
 
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