Re: Res: [Savannah-hackers] submission of SABIAN - Academic Control System Interne - savannah.nongnu.org

[Sylvain Beucler]

Hi,

On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 11:31:00PM -0300, Rodrigo F. Moglia wrote:
> Hi Sylvain,
> 
> Code was revised and include your header and some modifications.
> I?m resend and submit the code to your aproval.
> 

Some files still lack a header or use the previous one (in
subdirectories). Can you fix that?


> Is possible change copyright to FSF?
> 
> * Copyright (C) 2003, 2004  INDUX, Rio de Janeiro/RJ - Brasil
> * Copyright (C) 2003, 2004  FSF, Boston, MA - USA
> 
> In other case brazilian copyright INDUX and other countries to FSF.
> or Dual Copyright.
> 
> I agree for first option giving all copyright to FSF.

I suggest you contact address@hidden .  They should answer your
questions better than I can.

http://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/html_node/Copyright-Papers.html also
contains some information and overview of the copyright assignment.


> Some im continue suport aplication free future versions to comunity and
> INDUX get money from Sabian Comercial Support.
> 
> Is correct idea proced like a codeweavers (crossover office), giving to
> comunity modifications and having a comercial version?
> Is a correct model for free software bissness?

Note that commercial does not mean proprietary.

Free Software means that users have certain freedoms; it does not mean
zero price.  "Commercial" means "associated with business"; a commercial
program may be free or non-free, depending on its license.  So it is a
mistake to treat "free" and "commercial" as contraries.  When a business
develops free software, that is free commercial software.

Also check http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

We do not consider that maintaining both a free and a *proprietary*
version is a correct free software business model. If you want to
discuss this point, I suggest you contact Richard M. Stallman at
address@hidden, explaining your plans.

-- 
Sylvain


> Thanks in advance again,
> 
> Rodrigo Moglia
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 12:49:59PM -0300, Rodrigo F. Moglia wrote:
> >> It sufficiently helps me to send an idea of that it would be a certain
> >> heading.
> >>
> >> It would like to keep in header project URL, authors of each module,
> >> revision and version.
> >
> > Here is a standard URL, as described at
> > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.html (please read it), modified
> > from one of my C projects:
> >
> > /**
> >  * <One-line description of the file if needed>
> >
> >  * Copyright (C) 2003, 2004  INDUX, Rio de Janeiro/RJ - Brasil
> >
> >  * This file is part of Sabian
> >
> >  * Sabian is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
> >  * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as
> >  * published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at
> >  * your option) any later version.
> >
> >  * Sabian is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
> >  * WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
> >  * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU
> >  * General Public License for more details.
> >
> >  * You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
> >  * along with program; see the file COPYING. If not, write to the Free
> >  * Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA
> >  * 02111-1307, USA.
> >
> >  * <Any other information>
> >  */
> >
> > --
> > Sylvain
> >
> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 11:21:37AM -0300, Rodrigo F. Moglia wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> Im bazar mode, in one hour make many changes on sabian to modify
> >> project
> >> >> code, solving many "Rights Reserved", simple remove problematic
> >> files,
> >> >> and
> >> >> some others modifications.
> >> >
> >> > Please read the GPL HOWTO carefully. The copyright and license notices
> >> > have a very standard format.
> >> >
> >> > For example, the copyright notice should not be an unofficial
> >> > "copyleft" notice (since copyleft is based on official
> >> > copyright). Also, you should copy/paste the GPL license notice from
> >> > the GPL HOWTO.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Im meditation to free copyrights to FSF, this is the way to make
> >> sabian
> >> >> free. I is need FSF defends Sabian in Brazilian courts?
> >> >
> >> > If somebody in Brazil infridge's the FSF copyright on Sabian, the FSF
> >> > can defend it in Brazilian courts. There are international treaties on
> >> > copyright that allows this.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Sylvain
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:57:26PM -0300, Rodrigo F. Moglia wrote:
> >> >> >> Hi Sylvain,
> >> >> >> Im send code to you to your aval and aproval.
> >> >> >> Sorry for my poor english.
> >> >> >> Some brazilian asked of release code, i need CVS and free
> >> >> >> independent host to storage the project. sourceforge not
> >> >> >> trusted.
> >> >> >> My Project is Free Software not Open Source Project.
> >> >> >> My preference for hosting is savanah.
> >> >> >> I Recomended install on Debian Stable (Woody) all packages is
> >> >> standard
> >> >> and a Postgresql backport from unitedpostgresql.org.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Can you tell me exactly what package you are using? Maybe it is non
> >> >> free.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> My software must come be relelised witcha GNU/Software?
> >> >> >> or the project stay in non-gnu?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The project will be non-gnu.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You can ask the GNU Evaluation team if you want to your project to
> >> be
> >> >> dubbed 'GNU'. It is a another process, separate from Savannah
> >> hosting.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Please you check this for me, i need protect de software
> >> >> >> witch copyright to protect then, i don't some other
> >> >> >> organization turn Sabian in a proprietary software.
> >> >> >> Sabian must be protected by law to stay free :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > By using the GNU GPL, nobody can legally turn Sabian into a
> >> >> > proprietary software.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You can, in addition, give the copyright to Free Software
> >> Foundation;
> >> >> that way, the FSF will be able to protect Sabian in court.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In order to release your project properly and unambiguously under
> >> the
> >> >> GPL, please place copyright notices and permission-to-copy statements
> >> at
> >> >> the beginning of every file of source code.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In addition, if you haven't already, please include a
> >> >> > copy of the plain text version of the GPL, available from
> >> >> > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt, into a file named "COPYING".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For more information, see
> >> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.html.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The GPL FAQ explains why these procedures must be followed.  To
> >> learn
> >> >> why a copy of the GPL must be included with every copy of the code,
> >> for
> >> >> example, see
> >> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyMustIInclude.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Also check whether you really can use all the files in Sabian. For
> >> >> example, I can see in cal2.js, "All Rights Reserved", which means
> >> that
> >> >> file is not free software.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you are willing to make the changes mentioned above, please
> >> provide
> >> >> us with an URL to an updated tarball of your project.  Upon review,
> >> we
> >> >> will reconsider your project for inclusion in Savannah.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Sylvain
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Install Instructions:
> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Requeriments:
> >> >> >> For Server:
> >> >> >> A Web Server: Apache 1.3 or above is free and strong recomended.
> >> >> Postgresql 7.4 or above.
> >> >> >> PHP 4 Stable
> >> >> >> Note: PHP3 Works modify a autentication system change PHP4
> >> Sessions
> >> >> By
> >> >> PHPLIB Sessions
> >> >> >> For Client:
> >> >> >> Any Web Browser - Firefox(0.9.3) is strong recomended tested in
> >> >> Konqueror(3.x) too.
> >> >> >> Instalation:
> >> >> >> Step 1:
> >> >> >> untar sabian file 1.1 release tarball in any valid web server
> >> >> directory.
> >> >> >> tar -zxvf sabian_1.1.tar.gz ou
> >> >> >> tar -jxvf sabian_1.1.tar.bz2
> >> >> >> Step 2:
> >> >> >> create a valid postgresql database and feed witch sql/sabian.sql
> >> >> sql/sabian_dados.sql have a auxiliar data for brazilian cities and
> >> >> more.
> >> >> >> #su postgres
> >> >> >> $createdb sabian;
> >> >> >> $createdb sabian-perm;
> >> >> >> psql sabian -f sql/sabian.sql
> >> >> >> psql sabian -f sql/sabian_dados.sql
> >> >> >> psql sabian-perm -f sql/sabian-perm.sql
> >> >> >> Step 3:
> >> >> >> Open file html/compartilhados/conexao.php and edit lines 27,28,29
> >> to
> >> >> provide a
> >> >> >> valid postgresql user name and password for main program.
> >> >> >> $LoginDB     = "sabian";
> >> >> >> $LoginUID    = "postgres";
> >> >> >> $LoginPWD    = "";
> >> >> >> Open file html/autenticacao/conexao.php and edit lines 38,39,40.41
> >> to
> >> >> provide a
> >> >> >> valid postgresql user name and password for main autentication
> >> >> program.
> >> >> var $Host     = "localhost";
> >> >> >> var $Database = "sabian-perm";
> >> >> >> var $User     = "postgres";
> >> >> >> var $Password = "";
> >> >> >> Open file html/compartilhados/funcoes_sabian.php and edit lines 68
> >> to
> >> >> provide a
> >> >> >> url of system icons and pictures.
> >> >> >> $caminho_tema = "http://sabian.youserver.org/temas/$tema_sistema";;
> >> >> Step 4:
> >> >> >> Point your web browser to main url of sabian and login as admin:
> >> >> user:
> >> >> root
> >> >> >> password: sabian
> >> >> >> And another normal user to test permitions
> >> >> >> user: sabian
> >> >> >> password: sabian
> >> >> >> Finaly i expected you have a fun!
> >> >> >> System Hack Steps :)
> >> >> >> Open file html/autenticacao/autentica.php and edit lines 114 to
> >> >> provide a
> >> >> >> valid super user for you and ignore all check permitions.
> >> >> >> if(($S_login == "admin") or($S_login == "moglia") or ($S_login ==
> >> >> "andre"))
> >> >> >> {
> >> >> >>     echo "<h4>Olá, $S_login meu criador, senhor e amo.Tudo bem
> >> >> papi!!!!
> >> >> >> :)</h4>";
> >> >> >> }
> >> >> >> After login in the main url change your url to:
> >> >> >> http://sabian.youserver.org/admin/
> >> >> >> This is a easter egg of sabian allow yours create any users and
> >> >> single
> >> >> permitions
> >> >> >> by every file of system.
> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Original Menssage
> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> I'm evaluating the project you submitted for approval in Savannah.
> >> >> >> > Rodrigo Ferreira Moglia <address@hidden> described the
> >> >> package
> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> follows:
> >> >> >> > License: gpl
> >> >> >> > Other License:
> >> >> >> > Package: SABIAN - Academic Control System Interne
> >> >> >> > System name: sabian
> >> >> >> > Type: non-GNU
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Description:
> >> >> >> > SABIAN  - Academic Control System Internet Based
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hi to sananah people.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > SABIAN is another free Academic System for Brazilian schools and
> >> >> >> colleges.
> >> >> >> > This is Internet based system written in PHP script language.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The heart of the SABIAN is the PostgreSql database, more also
> >> can
> >> >> be
> >> >> >> tested in
> >> >> >> > otherŽs databases like Firebird and Mysql, however we strong
> >> >> >> recommend
> >> >> >> use the PostgreSQL data base.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > SABIAN is multiplatform system Client Side and Server Side,
> >> >> >> > im recommend use SABIAN on Gnu/Linux OS where SABIAN was strong
> >> >> >> tested.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > We had notice that the SABIAN was installed successfully in a
> >> >> Windows
> >> >> ServerŽs with some modifications using Firebird as data
> >> >> base.
> >> >> >> duff!!! :(
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > SABIAN is a free software, under GNU/GPL.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > We look collaborators for the project: locales, designers,
> >> >> >> programmers,
> >> >> >> analysts and testers.
> >> >> >> > Join the SABIAN community is participates of the dream to create
> >> >> >> efficient
> >> >> >> > academic control system for Brazil, knows for the world!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > A Small History of SABIAN.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If you this working in an education institution and are not
> >> >> satisfied
> >> >> >> with proprietary software who this using or the academic system
> >> that
> >> >> you
> >> >> >> > tried to install very is complicated and it does not function in
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> way
> >> >> >> > that waited tries the SABIAN!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Im worked in a college and not satisfected with a proprietary
> >> >> academic
> >> >> >> system
> >> >> >> > installed on my old job.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Many free alternatives is very complicated to use and install
> >> also
> >> >> im
> >> >> >> tried
> >> >> >> > buid a free alternative for brazilian comunity.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Also not forgetting the system target is small brazilian
> >> colleges
> >> >> >> without information systems
> >> >> >> > controls.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > SABIAN is in final adaptation for launching of release 1.1 some
> >> >> >> screenshots
> >> >> >> > avaliable in project temporary website.
> >> http://sabian.indux.com.br
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The main project idea is simplicity, without complicated
> >> >> >> configurations.
> >> >> >> > The proposal is: Sabian Academic System Of the Masses, then must
> >> be
> >> >> >> simple:)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > It is not nothing so huge as the systems proprietors who make
> >> >> >> everything,
> >> >> >> > more we wait that one day it makes:)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > We are following the social contract of debian (
> >> >> >> http://www.debian.org/social_contract )
> >> >> >> > as base of project philosophy of that we believe that it is
> >> >> definition
> >> >> >> of the Free
> >> >> >> > but adjusted to project.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Project URL: http://sabian.indux.com.br
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > André Luis Wagner de Souza and Rodrigo F. Moglia
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Other Software Required:
> >> >> >> > apache, php3, postgresql.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Other Comments:
> >> >> >> > Please I am Brazilian and I do not have domain of the American
> >> >> >> language,
> >> >> >> would like to talk with somebody of free software fondation that
> >> it
> >> >> knows
> >> >> >> to say Portuguese, I am voluntary devel of cipsga in Brazil my
> >> email
> >> >> is
> >> >> address@hidden
> >> >> >> > PS. Sorry for my poor english.
> >> >> >> We currently do not have people who speak Portuguese in the
> >> Savannah
> >> >> staff, so we will have to continue in English.
> >> >> >> Please register your project again and include an (temporary) URL
> >> >> pointing to the source code.  The description you gave when
> >> >> >> registering will not be read by the general public. If you are
> >> still
> >> >> concerned with privacy, however, you can forward the code to me by
> >> >> email.
> >> >> >> We wish to review your source code, even if it is not functional,
> >> to
> >> >> catch
> >> >> >> potential legal issues early.
> >> >> >> For example, to release your program properly under the GPL you
> >> must
> >> >> include a copyright notice and permission-to-copy statements at the
> >> >> beginning of every file of source code.  This is explained in
> >> >> >> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-howto.html.  Our review would help
> >> >> catch
> >> >> >> potential omissions such as these.
> >> >> >> Also, our preferred definition of free software is located at:
> >> >> >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
> >> >> >> If you are willing to make the changes mentioned above, please
> >> >> provide us
> >> >> >> with an URL to an updated tarball of your project.  Upon review,
> >> we
> >> >> will
> >> >> >> reconsider your project for inclusion in Savannah.
> >> >> >> Regards,