Re: [STUMP] Flipping heads in group to groups in head!

[Michael Raskin]

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>>>>> What would be needed to get this support into StumpWM ?
>>>>> As far as I understand it its not possible to get it done in stumpwm.
>>>>
>>>> It would require changes more or less everywhere.
>>>>
>>>> I sent out the idea to get feedback on whether the design is sound or not.
>>>
>>> It would probably mean breaking a lot of code and stumpwmrcs
>>> everywhere, but I really support this motion. Having independent heads
>>> would be a killer feature for me.
>>
>> The problem is that _both_ heads-in-groups and groups-in-heads can be very
>> useful. So we either have to provide both and share code, or develop some
>> new concepts which allow simple expression of both cases.
>>
>heads-in-groups is a superset of groups-in-heads.
>
>I described in my original post how to emulate the latter behaviour by 
>gluing heads together to make the group switching happen for all heads 
>at the same time.

And we need to rethink bindings for group operations, because when my wish
"I want to see group my email client", I would obviously prefer to be able
to summon the relevant group in some consistent way, even if my focus is on 
another head.

In that case I guess we change quite a lot of things at once (not only in code,
but also conceptually), so the question is what do we want to get if we change 
everything anyway.

Maybe I should not care because I have reached the state where I almost
avoid group switches. I have even managed to overcome dirty hack with doing
a pseudo-modeline out of XTerm by use of frame tagging (using XTerm is not 
a dirty hack per se because I have some status watching sripts for longer than
I use StumpWM and I want seconds in my clock). In some sense, I 
have virtual heads inside heads and groups of windows are inside them. (I will
probably post something on this tag-based solution to the list later, I want 
to play with it to be sure it works as I intended - if anyone wants to look at
complete beta, I can send this now)