Re: Stand-alone Info and info-mode inconsistency: end of buffer behavior

[Arsen Arsenović]

Hi Gavin,

Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123@gmail.com> writes:

> This can be configured using the scroll-behaviour and cursor-motion-scrolls
> variables in .infokey (see Info node (info-stnd)Variables).
>
> The info-stnd manual starts,
>
>   You can read through the rest of this manual by typing <SPC> and <DEL>
>   (or <Space> and <Backspace>)
>
> I doubt would help to stop this from working and leave the user stuck
> on the Top node.
>
> It was likely made to act this way on the past based on user feedback
> and I doubt it is warranted to make such a change now.

As Eli noted, I was referring to C-n and the arrow keys (the latter of
which fresh users are highly likely to try, I think).

>> However, I think this is a good thing.  Flipping between pages
>> accidentally like this can and does confuse folk who are unfamiliar with
>> how nodes work.
>> 
>> I feel as though the standalone info viewer is one of the most important
>> things a new GNU user would run into, and something they would run into
>> quite soon, due to it being referenced in all help2man'd manuals, and as
>> such, I feel like it's important to get an experience as close as
>> possible to what the person completely new to GNU would expect.
>
> Yes, I agree.  It seems that many people have found info difficult
> to use, although running "info info", or using the H or h keys
> (advertised in the welcome message) seems sufficient to get users
> started.

Indeed - missing the welcome message seems a common phenomena (I tested
this on a few folk around me, all of whom missed it), which is quite
strange...

I'd like to redirect this discussion to Alex' thread on help-texinfo,
though.  I hope we can collect some constructive criticism.

Thanks, have a great evening.
-- 
Arsen Arsenović

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