Re: CEASE AND DESIST ORDER

[John Smith]

Maybe the address@hidden list should be made private for subscribers only.
Keeping it open just allows tons of spam in and causes problems like
this.  Is there any good reason why it has to be kept open for spammers
to abuse?  All other lists that I am on are closed because of spam abuse
like this.

~John


On Mon, Apr 22 2002 21:36:05 Mark H. Weaver wrote:
> The Free Software Foundation, which administers the gnu.org domain, is
> a well-known non-profit charity organization, and I assure you that we
> do not send any SPAM email.
> 
> However, we do operate several unmoderated mailing lists, and
> unfortunately a great deal of SPAM is sent to these lists.  All of our
> public mailing lists are operated in a secure opt-in fashion, meaning
> that recipients must actively confirm that they wish to subscribe
> before receiving messages.
> 
> I suspect that someone sent SPAM (containing your company's URL) to an
> unmoderated GNU mailing list, which then propagated it to the mailing
> list subscribers.  Our mailing list software automatically adds a URL
> to the bottom of every message sent through the mailing list, which
> allows them to unsubscribe.
> 
> Unfortunately, spamcop's software has a flaw -- it often blames the
> administrators of mailing lists through which SPAM is sent, instead of
> the true originators of the SPAM.
> 
> I cannot be sure what happened here without seeing an example message.
> If you forward us such a message, with full mail headers (including
> the "Received" headers which are often hidden by mail programs), I can
> show you where those headers identify the true originator of this
> SPAM.
> 
>        Mark  (GNU sysadmin)
> 
> 
> Evergreen Systems <address@hidden> wrote:
> > 
> > To whom it may concern:
> > 
> > You are advertising our web page URL in a spam email
> > that is being sent, unsolicited, to spam cop
> > subscribers.
> > We have received notices from spamcop, with our URL in
> > your bulk email, due to the fact that our URL is in
> > your spam email. your domain name at the bottom of it.
> > We did NOT give any permission to use our domain name,
> > or include our URL in any spam email.
> > If you cause us loss of business due to subsequent
> > loss of our web host, monetary damages to your company
> > will be SEVERE.
> > 
> > You are hereby ordered to IMMEDIATELY, and without
> > further delay, to CEASE AND DESIST this activity.
> > 
> > If you do not, we will immediately file a case in the
> > state of Massachusetts.
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > 
> > Jon Capp
> > Attorney at Law
> > On behalf of Robert Hoyt
> > Evergreen Systems
> > Eugene, Oregon
> > http://www.bulk-email-software.net
> > 
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> 
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