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Re: non-x window manager
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Banlu Kemiyatorn |
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Re: non-x window manager |
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Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:34:35 +0700 |
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Rogelio M.Serrano Jr. wrote:
is there a gnustep window manager that uses only gnustep-gui? no x
dependency at all.
Is it possible to create one?
window manager has x dependency by itself. but I think you mean
windowing system.
basicly, for a non x-dependency window manager-like thing, you'll have
to implement
a layer that can wrap the windowing system's api (either X11,directfb,Y)
with GSDisplayServer [1]
which is an abstract class. For directfb, AFAIK, it is easiest to have
only one process managing
the current resource so you'll need a complete window system wrapper
that communicate
to other applications. It's hard to explain. I will show some graphics
that explain this.
http://www.nongnu.org/woom/images/documents/woom_diagram.png
From this diagram, the application clients will have a small backend
that will form a communication
layer between the clients and the window server. From this model, to add
a support to any system,
I must write a WMDevice for that system. eg. WMDirectFBDevice. And to
draw on
each window device, it must either uses libart or cairo for PostScript
operations. With X11, this server will
create a window with X api, with opengl, it will create a single window
and map all opengl window into it.
For the rest, it will not need any window manager if you only want to
run GNUstep apps.
(Note that I am not saying that this model is better than current model
that applications actually own
their window in anyway, it was just made with purpose of being a OpenGL
windowing system)
I have a seperate plan for a window manager for x11 in addition the the
project above. It was Kika-ka
(previously known as WOOM[2] but WOOM became something else I mentioned
above) which..
will be done in a form of x11 backend extension that will be able to
manage other X11 applications
and use AppKit for any dialogs and decoration. The plan of Kika-ka was
to write a wrapper over XGServer (x11-back)
and let it processes events that belong to window manager before passing
the rest to the application body.
This will required that only one app has to use Kika-ka as the backend.
(Thus, others may fall back
to the code that isn't a window manager, but it isn't safe because you
can't just quit the first application
you run because it became a window manager.)
But after all. I'm too busy with another project of cloning photoshop.
So I suspended all these tasks
and the only thing available is a bunch of cairo-backend code (working
already but without text support)
which I planned to reuse it later in the window system above. The
cairo-backend will be eventually
maintained after Cairo's api is more stable and when I know better how
text system exactly work.
[1] http://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/gui/GSDisplayServer.html
[2] http://www.nongnu.org/woom/
- Re: non-x window manager, (continued)
- Re: non-x window manager, Rogelio M . Serrano Jr ., 2003/10/21
- Re: non-x window manager, Chris B. Vetter, 2003/10/21
- Re: non-x window manager, Rogelio M . Serrano Jr ., 2003/10/21
- Re: non-x window manager, Chad Hardin, 2003/10/22
- Re: non-x window manager, Alwin Blok, 2003/10/22
- Re: non-x window manager, Rogelio M . Serrano Jr ., 2003/10/21
- Re: non-x window manager, Chris B. Vetter, 2003/10/21
- Re: non-x window manager, Rogelio M . Serrano Jr ., 2003/10/21
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- Re: non-x window manager, Larry Cow, 2003/10/21
- Re: non-x window manager, Chris B. Vetter, 2003/10/21
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Re: non-x window manager, Alexander Malmberg, 2003/10/22