Re: xim doesn't work (scim)

[Omniscient]

On May 5, 7:20 am, Zhang Weiwu <zhangwe...@realss.com> wrote:

> It depends on the development model & how you see it. You can also
> through "bad" application to users and if they can use, they might want
> to improve it. Some projects succeeded doing so. Me as an example might
> grow a lot of interest in working on optimizing user interface logic of
> PRINCE but since I cannot type things there I am not motivated to
> contribute ideas. Non-developer like me are also sometimes aiding projects

What's PRINCE, BTW?

I'd like to clarify it this way.. I'm sure non-developer members are
very important
to the community. Too bad at current state, GNUstep only attracted
weirdos,
like me, and admit it, like most of yous, those would spend the rest
of day
doing '90s bsd vs linux flame war then playing Nethack before going to
bed.
While nothing is wrong with that, it wouldn't interest people in
Armani suits.
The kind of users GNUstep currently has, while nothing wrong with
them,
will hardly help the project to get into the real world. I hate it to
believe that the
only hope of GNUstep is to be a platform for porting some Cocoa apps.
And I
still hope it will not be that way.. The platform is mature, powerful
and I hardly
believe it's still at this current state. So I think it would make
more sense if people
are focusing on using their engineering efforts to bring GNUstep into
a money
platform, to create real money from real works in real economics.
Rather
spend time doing something they prefer the most just for fun. I'm not
criticizing
the developments of desktop environments. Those are also very
important,
especially if they make frameworks that are useful for building
serious applications.
And according my logic, it would be best if we have some goal
applications that
actually make money. So all framework developments are routed back to
those
applications developments. That would make the best of it. So now what
can
non-developers can help? At this current state of GNUstep, I'd suggest
one to
try to become developers themselves. I'm sure there are plenty of us
who
would love to help them to become one. New developers, although even
they are
not very experience, they can help on a very important task, as code
janitors.
They will learn a lot from the cleaning jobs and can help completing
code chunks that
was designed by some serious coders but didn't have time to type all
of them down.
Those job didn't directly bring us the iiimf support, but is the
fastest way to help us to get one, imho.
Anyway, sorry if I actually disturbed anyone!

> > Since GNUstep's whole display system is all done in vector based, it's
> > pretty easy to provide WYSIWYG from the widget level, eg. you print a
> > widget you get a 1:1 postscript. It's text system is also very
> > powerful and very well designed and can be rotated by any arbitrary
> > degrees, pretty fit into DTP requirements by that it could allow
> > better integration and interaction between view and model.
>
> Sounds interesting. Let me think, that may be inspiring to user
> interface design too.

PS. Here's my shot of the day
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WFE4wEfTeTI/SgBmqM5jdaI/AAAAAAAAAdw/LS7Qt53fowQ/s1600-h/scenegraph.png