Re: GNOME Theme Improvements....

[David Chisnall]

We already have support for top-of-screen menu bars.  GNUstep provides a simple 
one, and Étoilé extends this with a menu server.  Gregory is merging the Étoilé 
patches so that GNUstep will automatically use a menu server if one is 
available, or use the entire top of the screen if not.  

Both top-of-screen and in-window menus share some code, because they both need 
to move things like the default hide and quit menu items from the top-level 
menu into the application menu, and they both need to make the menu draw 
horizontally (just in a different location).

The in-window menu is very important for integration with foreign environments, 
such as Windows and GNOME, because that is how all of the other applications on 
the system behave.  It doesn't matter how much better Mac-style top-of-screen 
menu bars or NeXT-style menu bars are in theory - they are much worse if you 
are the only application that does it.  

If we want GNUstep to be the best development for GNOME and Windows desktops 
(which I do, and I hope others do!), then we need good in-window menus, and I'm 
really please do see the progress that Gregory has made in integration with 
these platforms recently.  A user should not be able to easily tell the 
difference between a GTK or Win32 app and a GNUstep app, and it's become 
considerably harder for them to do so in the last year as a result of the theme 
work by Gregory and others.  

David

On 28 Dec 2010, at 16:35, Banlu Kemiyatorn wrote:

> May be my solution is more suitable for a GS or OSX users, as I just
> dont want to make a sacrifice of the top to left accessibility for a
> top of the window menu. But this built-in-window menu is sure welcome
> as it seems integrated better with GNOME environment. Actually I am
> currently looking at gnome-panel source right now
> (panel-menu-bar.[ch]) and it looks pretty easy to have a vertical menu
> as the replacement/addition to the Applications one or it could even
> be a horizontal one.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Samuel Dionne-Riel
> <samuel@dionne-riel.com> wrote:
>> Samuel Dionne-Riel <samuel <at> dionne-riel.com> writes:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Why not also allow the menu to be "docked" in the application window? A bit
>> like
>>> how it's handled in Windows. People want better integration, why force a 
>>> panel
>>> menu only in some (rare for now) applications?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Disregard this, I thought this thread was about the post before, where the 
>> menu
>> was still not integrated.
>> 
>> 
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