Re: GNUstep SoftWare Index - new project home and sources of the tool

[Philippe Roussel]

Le vendredi 07 janvier 2011 à 19:03 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller a
écrit :

[snip]

> > Well, if I may, it also means duplication of effort and stale data. In
> > the wiki SimpleAgenda is at version 0.41, 0.38 in the software index. I
> > know I could do something about it but why should I have to ?
> 
> Because you have two different type of users out there. One is preferring to 
> read
> a Wiki and the other is preferring a List like SWI. It is like companies are 
> announcing
> their new products on radio, on TV in magazines, by postal mailing, by 
> bulk-email etc.
> 
> Each one could be sufficient to reach 100% of world population...

Yeah, well, maybe if there were applications that the world population
would be interested in :o)

Look, I'm just saying that in my humble opinion, wrong information,
stale documentation, dead links etc are bad marketing. I think that on
the main gnustep site one application/bundle/framework is enough.
Duplicating information does not create new information.
 
[snip]

> >> Maybe, you can set up some bot that reads out the Software Index and 
> >> updates
> >> the Application Wiki?
> > 
> > Or the other way around ? Who will decide what should be updated by a
> > human being ?
> 
> That one does not work for technical reasons. The SWI is well structured for
> automatic processing while for a Wiki you may need natural language processing
> or semantical network analysis to extract any useful information.
>
> And, the author (or any user) of a application decides what to put in the SWI.
> So you can view SWI as a feed publication platform. You write messages that
> get published in a New-Software-Versions-Feed (in HTML, RSS or PList format).
> 
> The PLIst format (http://www.gnustep.org/softwareindex/plist.php) could allow 
> to
> write a Software Installer application that scans a GNUstep installation and 
> looks
> for updates. And can fetch and install them. I just wonder how that could be 
> done
> with a Wiki approach.

By using a page template like for the news page with a version, an url
and other details ?

> > I'm sorry but I think GNUstep's main weakness is it's lack of man power
> > and I don't think this is helping...
> 
> What do you mean with "this" in "this is not helping"? 

Having 2 software lists and inconsistent data.

> I may get it wrong but if this discussion is becoming a discussion about SWI
> and/or WIki and their benefits or problems I see this as not helping. They are
> marketing and convenience tools around GNUstep.
>
> SWI is existing and not a new effort. The Application Wiki is existing and not
> a new effort. Each one has its users and contributors. We don't invest much 
> time
> in any of them that is missing elsewhere...

You're right about that. Maybe we're not investing enough time, and if
that's the case I'm guilty too.

Thanks,
Philippe