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Re: GNUstep Kickstarter Project


From: Gregory Casamento
Subject: Re: GNUstep Kickstarter Project
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:33:02 -0400

The thing irks me the most about slashdot is that when they put it up they put 
it up in a "department" which is really a sarcastic commentary on what the 
slashdot staff thinks of the story.  

The darling posting got this "department" - "from the sure-thing-sweetheart 
dept."

The Sony posting, back in 2010 got this "department" - "from the 
new-way-of-doing-things dept."

I simply don't trust slashdot one bit.

Gregory Casamento
greg.casamento@gmail.com
Open Logic Corporation, President/CEO
GNUstep Lead Developer


On Aug 12, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Luboš Doležel <lubos@dolezel.info> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> cool. I would be pleasantly surprised if the goal is reached, though, without 
> some publicity. Try Phoronix or Slashdot.
> 
> What would be nice is to show some apps that were ported from OS X to 
> Linux/Windows, if there are any.
> 
> I have had some limited success with The Unarchiver, I guess the phase of 
> moon prevented it from crashing yesterday, but it's crashing again today, so 
> I can't take any screenshots. I must create some minimal test case to 
> reproduce the error and help get it fixed.
> 
> Luboš
> 
> On 12.8.2013 23:40, Gregory Casamento wrote:
>> Goals added.   They are tentative.
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Gregory Casamento
>> <greg.casamento@gmail.com <mailto:greg.casamento@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Thanks for your input, I'll add some goals in the project
>>    description as soon as they become a little more clear.
>>    Unfortunately I can't say that WebKit will be completed at $100,000
>>    because, to be honest, until the project is actually funded, it's
>>    impossible to tell what can be done.  I've tried to keep the goals
>>    realistic.  At this point, the goal, as stated, is to get GNUstep
>>    fully up to 10.6 and if possible beyond.  Given that Apple is a
>>    multi-billion dollar company and we are not I don't think this goal
>>    is out of the question.  Over promising can get us into a huge
>>    amount of trouble if we don't deliver.
>> 
>>    Gregory Casamento
>>    greg.casamento@gmail.com <mailto:greg.casamento@gmail.com>
>>    Open Logic Corporation, President/CEO
>>    GNUstep Lead Developer
>> 
>> 
>>    On Aug 12, 2013, at 5:20 PM, James Carthew <jcarthew@gmail.com
>>    <mailto:jcarthew@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>     > I'm no expert, but I have donated over $1000 to the Star Citizn
>>    kickstarter. They had very clear goals, outlined what they'd do with
>>    more money, and they had video/images of work they had already done
>>    which proved they were serious and capable of delivering goals.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On 13 August 2013 07:18, James Carthew <jcarthew@gmail.com
>>    <mailto:jcarthew@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>     > Good idea, but I think some more planning should be added to
>>    this. Usually when kickstarters succeed they have stretch goals and
>>    very clear presentation of what's currently available, and what will
>>    be available after the project succeeds.. You're going to need a lot
>>    more media on that page. My advice would be to throw up screenshots
>>    of gnustep applications running on gnustep and OSX, show a lot of
>>    comparisons between the apis, show people what you're planning to
>>    create/work on. Saying fund my idea, here's the idea isn't enough
>>    with Kickstarter. You have to really sell the idea you want made.
>>    Sell a vision. Outline clear goals. Say at $100,000 Vespucci/Webkit
>>    will be completed, at $150,000 System Preferences.app will support
>>    networking, X, and audio configuration etc. Clear goals that show
>>    people what they will get out of it. At least put some videos of
>>    gnustep apps on linux and gnustep apps under osx on there.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On 13 August 2013 06:31, Gregory Casamento
>>    <greg.casamento@gmail.com <mailto:greg.casamento@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>     > Updated, I added a $2 fee to cover shipping outside the US only
>>    because I suspect it will be a little more expensive.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Gregory Casamento
>>    <greg.casamento@gmail.com <mailto:greg.casamento@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>     > Does it say that?  I'll change it if I can.  Thanks.
>>     >
>>     > GC
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
>>    <hns@goldelico.com <mailto:hns@goldelico.com>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     > Am 12.08.2013 um 22:13 schrieb Gregory Casamento:
>>     >
>>     >> Hey guys, I've launched a kickstarter project in the hopes of
>>    getting some time to work exclusively on GNUstep in order to try to
>>    address some of the issues we have surrounding API completeness,
>>    documentation issues, etc..., here it is:
>>     >>
>>     >> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/203272607/gnustep-project
>>     >
>>     > Cool.
>>     >
>>     > But why ship only within US?
>>     >
>>     > I think it is not a problem to get someone to copy CDs inside the
>>    EU or e.g. Australia and ship them out at low cost as a letter to
>>    save postage.
>>     >
>>     > BR,
>>     > Nikolaus
>>     >
> 
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