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Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8
From: |
Simon Josefsson |
Subject: |
Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8 |
Date: |
Tue, 29 Apr 2003 16:27:59 +0200 |
User-agent: |
Gnus/5.09002 (Oort Gnus v0.20) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) |
"Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/address@hidden> writes:
>> >> Can't we move binary down below UTF-8 in CVS? IMHO we should move
>> >> UTF-8 earlier still, since determining whether data is UTF-8 or not
>> >> can be done with good probability. Prefering binary over UTF-8 seems
>> >
>> > Agreed, but I think one of the problems is that the preference-ordering
>> > is the same for load-time-detection as it is for save-time-detection,
>> > so if you move utf-8 up for detection you end up saving all new files
>> > in utf-8 which is not OK in non-utf-8 locales.
>>
>> This sounds serious in theory, but I was unable to make emacs behave
>> unexpectedly in practice. Do you have an example?
>
> The problem only appears if you move utf-8 to the first spot.
But utf-8 hasn't been moved first, so this isn't a problem?
I agree it would be useful to be able to configure different loading
and saving time preferences. Then I would be able to specify that
emacs should try to save data as ascii first, then latin-1, then
latin-9 and then UTF-8, then give up and ask. On loading, I'd want it
to try latin-9 instead of latin-1 though. In non-UTF-8 locales, I
think this behaviour is what many europeans would want.
> Moving it to the first spot otherwise makes sense since
> auto-detection of utf-8 is about as reliable as it gets.
Yup.
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, (continued)
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Benjamin Riefenstahl, 2003/04/26
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Benjamin Riefenstahl, 2003/04/26
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Richard Stallman, 2003/04/28
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Richard Stallman, 2003/04/26
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Simon Josefsson, 2003/04/26
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Stefan Monnier, 2003/04/28
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Simon Josefsson, 2003/04/28
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Stefan Monnier, 2003/04/29
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8,
Simon Josefsson <=
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2003/04/30
- Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Richard Stallman, 2003/04/30
Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Simon Josefsson, 2003/04/25
Re: Cyrillic vs UTF-8, Kenichi Handa, 2003/04/26