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Re: Idea for compilation mode
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David Kastrup |
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Re: Idea for compilation mode |
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08 Jun 2003 04:38:59 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 |
Richard Stallman <address@hidden> writes:
> I'm not interested in making any major changes in Emacs key bindings
> for the sake of non-US keyboards. It would be too much trouble.
Naturally. It is just a thing to keep in mind for creating keymaps
that some keys are often worse to reach than others, when switching to
a different language. ` is an example for a key that is horrible to
type on almost any keyboard except US ones, and so it should be
avoided for important key bindings like next-error.
> However, it might perhaps make sense to support optional alternate
> binding themes for some of these layouts. Those could be maintained
> by users of those keyboard layouts, perhaps using
> key-translation-map to make them independent of the rest of Emacs.
> That way, they won't be a maintenance burden.
That would be overkill, I guess. Most keybindings for Emacs are
designed not for ergonomicity, but for their mnemonic value. For
example, C-b C-f C-p C-n make just as little sense on a Dvorak
keyboard as they do on an American. This is in stark difference to
the bindings of vi, where the cursor movements hjkl very much depend
on a Qwert-based keyboard layout in order to work.
In my opinion, national keyboard themes would not be worth the trouble
for Emacs, but keeping in mind keys like "address@hidden" and a few others as
being awkward in particular in connection with modifier keys will be a
boon for many users.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, (continued)
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, David Kastrup, 2003/06/06
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Stephan Stahl, 2003/06/06
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, David Kastrup, 2003/06/06
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Stephan Stahl, 2003/06/06
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Juanma Barranquero, 2003/06/06
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Stephan Stahl, 2003/06/06
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Juanma Barranquero, 2003/06/06
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Stephan Stahl, 2003/06/11
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Frank Schmitt, 2003/06/07
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Richard Stallman, 2003/06/07
- Re: Idea for compilation mode,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Juanma Barranquero, 2003/06/09
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Stephan Stahl, 2003/06/11
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, David Kastrup, 2003/06/11
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Juanma Barranquero, 2003/06/12
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, David Kastrup, 2003/06/06
- Re: Idea for compilation mode, Stephan Stahl, 2003/06/06