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RE: Info tutorial is out of date
From: |
Drew Adams |
Subject: |
RE: Info tutorial is out of date |
Date: |
Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:11:27 -0700 |
> They're already used to it - there are no more virgin users.
They're not used to using the mouse with Emacs.
What we're talking about here is menu access and clicking links and buttons.
There is nothing Emacs-specific with how user users do those things in
Emacs - nothing new. I think you're grasping at straws, here.
> I'm not suggesting we teach them *any* way to perform simple
> navigation (equivalent of `n' and `p'). On the contrary, my
> point was that we *need not* teach that. There is an obvious,
> simple way to navigate: click a link or navigation button.
Falling back on that is effectively teaching them that's the way to do
it, or at least allowing them to teach themselves thats how to do it.
Not at all. At most, it could be said to *not* teach them to change their
nasty ways. But it does not teach them *anything* new about the
mouse/keyboard.
> I'm not worried about the risk that users will never learn to use `n'
> instead of clicking the `Next' button. You are, apparently.
Yes; but on my list of worries, this is fairly minor.
Good. So we can take care of that minor risk later in the tutorial; it is
secondary.
> Info is a browser for finding and reading manuals. The argument for
> keyboard shortcuts is vastly overstated when it comes to browsing
> (vs editing).
I would guess that someone using a mouse (or keyboard) for one part of
Emacs would use it throughout.
The question is, "Where is the right place to crusade for the keyboard?"
That lesson is a distraction from teaching Info.
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, (continued)
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Luc Teirlinck, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Miles Bader, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Stefan Monnier, 2006/07/18
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Miles Bader, 2006/07/18
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Richard Stallman, 2006/07/17
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Jay Belanger, 2006/07/17
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date,
Drew Adams <=
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Jay Belanger, 2006/07/17
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Alan Mackenzie, 2006/07/17
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/17
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Slawomir Nowaczyk, 2006/07/20
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Richard Stallman, 2006/07/20
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- Re: Info tutorial is out of date; mouse usage, David Kastrup, 2006/07/16
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date; mouse usage, Drew Adams, 2006/07/16
- Re: Info tutorial is out of date, Alan Mackenzie, 2006/07/16
- RE: Info tutorial is out of date, Drew Adams, 2006/07/16