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Re: Intervals crash
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Intervals crash |
Date: |
Mon, 27 Sep 2010 07:02:54 -0400 |
> From: David Kastrup <address@hidden>
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:02:02 +0200
>
> > We can get rid of almost all of them, if we believe that size_t and
> > EMACS_UINT are always of the same size.
>
> Why wouldn't we be using size_t when we needed something of size size_t?
We do, as a matter of habit. What I meant was to use size_t where we
now use EMACS_UINT, because almost all of those places have nothing to
do with Emacs integers. We simply use EMACS_UINT as a portable
unsigned data type large enough to accommodate both size_t and a
pointer.
> > In any case, I think we cannot get rid of using an unsigned data type
> > in most of the 70+ places we do now, because of one or more of the
> > following reasons:
> >
> > . the value is a bit mask or a bit map
>
> We have the assumption of two's complement arithmetic hardwired in a lot
> of other places. So bit operations should work on signed numbers
> reasonably well. Possible exception are right shifts when indeed the
> full range of an EMACS_UINT over an EMACS_INT is being employed, but
> then the number will not convert into an Elisp integer readily anyhow,
> so why use EMACS_UINT at all?
I obviously didn't make myself clear: these are _not_ reasons to use
EMACS_UINT, these are reasons why we sometimes need an unsigned
integer data type.
>> > . the value is a pointer that is subject to bitwise operations
>
> Why would a pointer be put into an EMACS_UINT?
Again, not into EMACS_UINT, but rather into an unsigned data type.
The reason is, of course, that almost every Lisp_Object is a pointer
in disguise, and alloc.c was why I put this reason in the list.
> > . the value is an unsigned data type forced by external hardware or
> > software API
>
> Again, why an EMACS_UINT rather than the appropriate unsigned data type
> forced by the external hardware?
See above, this isn't about EMACS_UINT. We will need some unsigned
data type that is portable between 32- and 64-bit architectures.
> If we use this as a Lisp integer
We don't, and I didn't say we should. I was talking about unsigned
data types that we would need even if we get rid of EMACS_UINT.
- Re: Intervals crash, (continued)
- Re: Intervals crash, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2010/09/25
- Re: Intervals crash, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/09/25
- Re: Intervals crash, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2010/09/26
- Re: Intervals crash, Miles Bader, 2010/09/26
- Re: Intervals crash, David Kastrup, 2010/09/26
- Re: Intervals crash, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2010/09/27
- Re: Intervals crash, David Kastrup, 2010/09/27
- Re: Intervals crash, Jan Djärv, 2010/09/27
- Re: Intervals crash, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/09/27
- Re: Intervals crash, David Kastrup, 2010/09/27
- Re: Intervals crash,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- Re: Intervals crash, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/09/27
- Re: Intervals crash, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2010/09/27
- Re: Intervals crash, David Kastrup, 2010/09/27
- Re: Intervals crash, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2010/09/27
- Re: Intervals crash, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2010/09/27
Re: Intervals crash, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/09/24