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Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b533552 2/5: Documentation fixes re quotes


From: Dmitry Gutov
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master b533552 2/5: Documentation fixes re quotes
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 01:59:28 +0300
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On 09/04/2015 01:47 AM, Paul Eggert wrote:

Ah, sorry, I thought the context was the current Emacs master, not Emacs
after some further changes are applied to it.

The context is what Emacs master had been not too long ago, as well as what it'll most likely be in the future.

In the current master
most of the problems you mentioned are not a big deal in practice, as
typically there's immediate visual feedback when one types the wrong
quote.

You keep saying "not a big deal in practice". The original problem (straight quotes) never was a "big deal in practice", yet you saw fit to introduce many changes to fix it. Fixing it while keeping many known (and new) shortcomings doesn't make sense.

It is true that in some more-complicated cases this breaks down,
but this is a nearly inevitable consequence of any markup syntax that
uses quotes to represent so many different concepts, regardless of
whether the syntax uses ASCII or curved quotes.

Not if the programmer looks at the output (a Help buffer, for example). The output will necessarily be "correct". However, like I wrote, if the output is the same as input by default, looking at the output won't help you find problems.

You are correct in that if we came up with a different markup syntax
that was more systematic and organized, many of these more-complicated
cases would work better.

Doing everything better is not a necessary condition. Doing only some of the things better might suffice.



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