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Re: Ligature support
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Ligature support |
Date: |
Fri, 05 Nov 2021 18:34:47 +0200 |
> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: gregory@heytings.org, mattiase@acm.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
> schwab@linux-m68k.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, raman@google.com
> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2021 16:37:50 +0100
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > How many ligatures are there in the best of all fonts? If the number
> > of the ligatures is not too large, then passing them to the shaper may
> > not be such a terrible idea.
>
> I don't really know -- my test font has 27 ligatures, apparently, but
> some of the more fun programming fonts have at least a hundred, I think.
> And there's fonts that turn things like :warning: into its own glyph,
> using the ligature mechanism, and who knows how many of those there may
> be.
If the sequences of characters that are converted to ligatures are not
too frequent, that is still not a catastrophe.
> > So I think we should first consider which ligatures we'd like to
> > support, and whether the answer differs depending on the major mode.
> > For example, ligatures like ==> etc. are relevant to prog-mode modes,
> > but probably not to text modes. By contrast, "ff" and "fi" are
> > relevant only to text mode, I think.
>
> I think we want to support all ligatures the font supports (in general).
All the time? really??
For example, the mode line can show stuff like "=-", and the font
could have a ligature for that -- do we really want that ligature on
the mode line?
Or the font could have a ligature for "ffi" -- do we want a variable
named "efficient" be displayed with that ligature? I'd be surprised.
> But as you say, we may not want to switch all the ligatures on in all
> modes -- but I'm not really sure about that, either. If a person is
> using the Firabase font (or whatever it was called), they presumably do
> so because they want to get all the funny glyphs everywhere (that they
> use that font).
Most of them use prettify-symbols-mode or similar stuff, and that's
different from how character compositions work: you must actually put
a special text property to make that happen. So there's is not much
for us to learn from that.
> But it's certainly possible -- having a switch to tweak which ligatures
> should be active on a per-mode/buffer basis is something we'd need to
> look at. I think we can look at that after we actually have ligatures
> displayed at all, though. 😀
Displaying them is easy, just set up composition-function-table
accordingly (I can show you the code if you cannot figure that out).
That's the least of our problems.
- Re: Ligature support (was: Entering emojis), (continued)
- Re: Ligature support (was: Entering emojis), Eli Zaretskii, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/11/05
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- Re: Ligature support, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Yuri Khan, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Eli Zaretskii, 2021/11/06
- Re: Ligature support, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/11/06
- Re: Ligature support, Yuri Khan, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2021/11/05
- Re: Ligature support, Yuri Khan, 2021/11/06