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Re: [Orgmode] emacs on the N800


From: Daniel M German
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] emacs on the N800
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:55:37 -0800
User-agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (darwin)

I am moving this back to org, since I suspect they will be interested people.

 Bastien> Hhmm... yes, this is what I expected.  Daniel, is the physical 
keyboard
 Bastien> something that you miss?  How are you dealing with Emacs key chords?

I can't miss what I have never had ;) The stylus is ok with Ctrl
sequences, they just need one extra tap. Unfortunately xterm is broken
in OS2007 (control-_ is impossible) but I fixed it. In OS2008 it is
difficult to issue Ctrl- commands (they require an extra tap). I might
look into this once i fully move to 2008. So I guess that out of the
box, a phyical keyboard might make a difference, if it supports
<Ctrl>.

With respect to the virtual keyboard, it lacks <Ctrl>, <Alt> and
<Meta>. But a physical key can provide ESC. This is the reason I run
emacs inside an XTerm (emacs -nw). The Xterm can provide me a shortcut 
to <ctrl>: I tap it, then next key I tap is read as <ctrl-key>. The
disadvantage is that is no "mouse" support (the stylus can be used as
a pointer).

Now, OS2008 can work in host-mode (I have tested it myself). This
means you can attach any external keyboard. Some people have luck with
the apple bluetooth keyboard. I own a bluetooth IPaq keyboard (but I
haven't been able to connect it to it under OS 2008). So when I really
need to use emacs, I can always connect a real keyboard. Not ideal for
standing up, but way more practical than a virtual keyboard when
sitting.

 Bastien> Sorry to ask so insistently, but I *can't* test the N800
 Bastien> until I make up my mind on this :( And chosing the N810
 Bastien> instead means that I'll have to wait for another two
 Bastien> weeks...

Well, it depends on how much money you are willing to spend. The N800
is around 150-250 dollars cheaper than the N810. I personally don't
see a reason to upgrade. But this is mainly because I always have a
laptop with me.


 Bastien> (There are many other factors.  For example, how many softwares are
 Bastien> available for 0S2008, compared to 0S2007?  Is it worth waiting for 
 Bastien> an AZERTY physical keyboard?  etc, etc...)

This is why I dual boot. Some applications I use regularly haven't
made it to OS2008.

What we need is to compile emacs23 and see if works well with a
physical and stylus keyboard.

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