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Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/
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Eric Abrahamsen |
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Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/ |
Date: |
Fri, 12 Jun 2020 09:08:02 -0700 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Eric Wong <e@yhbt.net> writes:
> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> wrote:
>> Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:
>>
>> > [ +cc Eric Wong, mostly to say thanks for all the work he puts into
>> > public-inbox, which is the software behind these archives, but also so
>> > that he can correct me if I misrepresent any capabilities of or plans
>> > for public-inbox ]
>>
>> Thanks for this response, Kyle (and thanks for public-inbox, Eric)!
>
> you're welcome, both :>
>
>> You wouldn't really use one backend (nnweb) to provide search support
>> for another (nntp). nnir can assign different search engines to
>> different backends -- what a "search engine" boils down to is a function
>> that accepts group search criteria, and returns groups and article
>> numbers (and optional relevance scoring) for matching messages. So if
>> public-inbox had some sort of an API that accepted a query and returned
>> the above information in some sort of easily-digestible format, it
>> wouldn't be hard to write a engine for it. Articles referenced in the
>> search results would then be retrieved via NNTP, so the article numbers
>> would need to correspond.
>
> Fwiw, I've been trying to avoid exposing NNTP article numbers in
> the HTTP endpoint in favor of Message-IDs because serial numbers
> aren't decentralization-friendly. Of course, sometimes
> Message-IDs get reused, so public-inbox will return all messages
> which match a particular Message-ID in those rare cases.
>
> Btw, POST with the "&x=m" query parameter already allows search
> to return a gzipped mboxrd.
>
> And also what I just wrote about about JMAP/GraphQL in the other
> message.
>
> A read-only IMAP server is also coming with search support,
> and IMAP UIDs will be equivalent to NNTP article numbers.
Sounds like something in there is bound to work! IMAP might be best --
while it's certainly possible to do Message-ID<->article number lookups,
that will slow Gnus down further, and it's already fairly slow.
Thanks again,
Eric
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, (continued)
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Eric Abrahamsen, 2020/06/05
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Kyle Meyer, 2020/06/07
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Eric Abrahamsen, 2020/06/08
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Eric Wong, 2020/06/08
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/,
Eric Abrahamsen <=
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Kyle Meyer, 2020/06/14
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Eric Abrahamsen, 2020/06/18
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Kyle Meyer, 2020/06/18
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Eric Abrahamsen, 2020/06/18
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Colin Baxter, 2020/06/18
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Kyle Meyer, 2020/06/18
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Eric Wong, 2020/06/19
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Eric Abrahamsen, 2020/06/19
- Re: New mailing list archive at https://orgmode/list/, Eric Wong, 2020/06/08