Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Debugging new user induction

[Tupshin Harper]

Tom Lord wrote:

> I'm often enough accused of being rude or having "bad tone" or
> whatever.  Therefore:
>
> "Let me make one thing perfectly clear...." [1]
>
> It's not a priority to debug your post because on some _other_ topics,
> both you and Andrea are making positive enough contributions.  My
> biggest complaint (which I would levy against many, many people, not
> just you) is that you aren't concise enough -- don't edit enough.
In that spirit, then...let me make one concise summary of one issue.

I don't like the notion of adding arch-ids to the contents of a file. I 
have listened to all the arguments in favor, and my very personal 
opinion is that the ends don't justify the means for me. Any project I 
maintain in arch will not contain these ids, and any patches that 
included these ids would be rejected. Therefore, I would use the "name" 
method instead of tagline or explicit because I would consider it 
harmful if tags subsequently got added to the files.

I respect the fact that other people here feel differently, but they can 
do what they want with their archives, and I can do what I want with 
mine. The notion that tagline is at least as good as name is a 
non-starter, because it allows something that I would not want to allow.

I agree with the notion that renames are rare enough that using tla 
commands is not intrusive. Beyond that, I believe that eventually 
interactive heuristics can be added if it appears that a rename took 
place without the corresponding tla command.

You make ask "why bother to bring this up? just use name and leave us 
alone." But many times, the sentiment seems to be expressed that it 
doesn't make any sense to use name inventory, and if this attitude 
prevails, then name tagging (which is essential for some) will be 
treated as a second class citizen, and tools that facilitate the use of 
name inventory will be frowned upon. I would prefer that this not happen.

Cheers
-Tupshin