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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Manners
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Tom Lord |
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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Manners |
Date: |
Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:53:04 -0700 (PDT) |
> From: "Pierce T.Wetter III" <address@hidden>
> You're both wrong. Some features just "make sense" in a software
> product, some don't. Browsers that don't have a local cache really
> suck to use, so they all have them.
I wasn't advocating for browsers that don't use a local cache. I was
talking about how best to engineer a local cache.
> Our job as software engineers to to decide what makes sense and what
> doesn't. Its a valid point that a general purpose cache might
> be less useful then a domain specific cache for tla. Many tla users
> have requested a cache, so there's obviously some desire there.
That's a far cry from the design decision that caching should be
internal to tla in a particular way.
There is no reason, for example, why an external cache can't be "tla
aware".
> > Yes, and, oddly enough, I find myself trying to beat back such trends
> > in arch. How tedious.
> Yes, it is your job to beat back feeping creaturism.
It's worse than that because there is a wealth of features that, from
my perspective, *do* belong in or about tla core that aren't there
yet. So it's a tedious exercise of making distinctions between the
many "features" proposed and the subset of *features* that are
desirable.
It doesn't help when I have to keep extinguishing soap operas. That
was part of the point of pushing for the voting system which, largely
due to resource constraints (afaict), has not been finished yet.
> It's also your job to listen to your users and make sure that tla has
> the _necessary_ yet _sufficient_ set of features.
> It's also your job to lead the troops, and personal attacks are not
> leadership.
I wish it were that simple. Come sit in my chair for a while and you
might not see things quite that way.
I have and *continue* to try to push James into a more conservative
mode where his strengths can shine and his weaknesses have a chance to
heal. The ugly public content lately is, in effect, me saying
"haven't you been paying _any_ f'ing attention to how much I've been
trying to help you?!?!?!"
> Tom, when one person says "you're difficult to communicate with",
> they're
> a crank".
> When the entire world says "you're difficult to communicate with",
> you're
> the crank.
Guess what. The entire world is not against me. Not by a long shot.
> Your emails would be a lot better if you had simply left off the
> personal attack. In all things, remember that you are not your code, and
> a suggestion is not the person. Attack the code or the suggestion, not
> the
> person.
And james has continuously endangered his ability to be a positive
contributor to the project by off-channel and off-channel aggressive
attacks against me. He could and still can stop that and come out
just fine. As an alternative: he can (rather pointlessly) just f up
the GNU project sufficiently that we have to route around him. His
choice.
Some stuff matters more than naive assesments of what is polite,
-t
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: Arch Cache & cached archives, (continued)
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- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Arch Cache & cached archives, Tom Lord, 2004/09/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Arch Cache & cached archives, Matthieu Moy, 2004/09/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Arch Cache & cached archives, Tom Lord, 2004/09/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Arch Cache & cached archives, James Blackwell, 2004/09/17
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Arch Cache & cached archives, Tom Lord, 2004/09/17
- [Gnu-arch-users] Manners, Pierce T . Wetter III, 2004/09/17
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- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Manners, James Blackwell, 2004/09/17
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- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Manners, Miles Bader, 2004/09/18
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