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Re: GPL licenced Java application using non GPL jars (libraries)

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: GPL licenced Java application using non GPL jars (libraries)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 13:35:16 +0200
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Alexander Terekhov <> writes:

> David Kastrup wrote:
>> Alexander Terekhov <> writes:
>> > David Kastrup wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >> While your module is not fake, the situation with regard to the
>> >> licenses is the same.  As long as your "GPLed with exception" software
>> >> is _only_ combined with GPLed software, this would be ok.
>> >
>> > GNU logic. Under FSF's own interpretation, that modified "GPL with
>> > exception" says that combined work as whole falls under "the terms
>> > of this License",
>> Uh, no it doesn't.  Nothing _ever_ "falls" under the GPL unless it is
> I meant (the FSF interpretation of):
> "You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in
>  whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any
>  part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third
>  parties under the terms of this License."

"must cause" is the duty of the person redistributing.  It does not
happen automatically.

>> explicitly placed there, namely licensed under the GPL by the
>> copyright holder.  The GPL is not an infectious disease.  You can't
>> legally redistribute the results without effectively placing other
>> parts under the GPL (or strictly less restraining terms, this is what
> The GPL says "under the terms of this License." It says nothing about
> "strictly less restraining terms" whatever that means. 

"licensed as a whole".  That means the whole has to be under the terms
of the GPL, namely meeting all conditions concerning redistribution as
defined by the GPL.  Identifiable parts can have additional
permissions placed on them by the copyright holder: this is not
prohibited by the GPL, only additional restrictions concerning the
collective work as a whole: the GPL does not give permission to
redistribute such a combined work including GPLed portions.

> Stop bullshiting, dak.

That's your specialty.

David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

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