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Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus: "Face it, the 'open source' crowd i

From: Alexander Terekhov
Subject: Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Linus: "Face it, the 'open source' crowd is the *bigger* crowd"
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:17:01 +0200

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> >
> > > "More Developers" (either "Free Software" or "Open Source") == "More
> > > Contributions"
> >
> > No, seriously.  Linus is disputing the equation above, dismissing my
> > various attempts to show it to him, whenever it appears in teh context
> > of tivoization, apparently because it doesn't match his moral belief
> > that tivoization ought to be permitted on his moral grounds.
> No. Linus is not AT ALL disputing the equation above.
> But you are too f*cking stupid to admit that I *accepted* the
>  - "More developers" == "More contributions" == good
> equation, but I was claiming that your *other* part was totally broken.
> You try to claim that the GPLv3 causes "More developers", and that, my
> idiotic penpal, is just crazy talk that you made up.
> But since you cannot follow a logical argument, and cannot make one up
> on your own, you instead make up some *other* argument, and try (like
> above) to try to say that I made that claim.
> The GPLv2 is the one that allows more developers.
> The GPLv2 is the one that is acceptable to more people.
> Face it, the "open source" crowd is the *bigger* crowd. The FSF crowd is
> vocal and opinionated, but it's largely made up of people who _talk_ more
> than they actually _code_.
> Hot air doesn't make the world go round. Real code does.
> Look at the kernel developers who claim that the GPLv2 is better. Not just
> me. Then look at the people who actually GET THINGS DONE.
> There's a big overlap there.
> Now, look at the people who try to sell the GPLv3 as the best thing since
> sliced bread. How many of those are people who actually get things *done*?
> I haven't really seen a single one. Last I did the statistic, I asked the
> top ~25-30 kernel developers about their opinion. NOT A SINGLE ONE
> preferred the GPLv3.
> So I have actual *numbers* on my side. What do you have, except for a
> history of not actually understanding my arguments?
>                 Linus
> -


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